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    I don't even remember the name of the thread, but I've been doing my own version, with a twist (and this is more MMA than boxing, but anyway....) I'm finding it very useful to just find one thing to work on. Like for example, I've been practicing a lot of elbows when I'm shadowboxing or working heavybag on my own because I notice one of the guys I train with drops his hand sometimes. I'm sure he'll stop doing it after I get a few good elbows in. So picking just one thing enables me to at least get SOMEthing in against the studs I spar with who are stronger and faster and train more than I do and have been doing it longer. It also helps them with their game a little because I'm purposely picking up on all the holes I can find. I like it!

  • #2
    Originally posted by treelizard View Post
    I'm finding it very useful to just find one thing to work on. Like for example, I've been practicing a lot of elbows when I'm shadowboxing or working heavybag on my own because I notice one of the guys I train with drops his hand sometimes. I'm sure he'll stop doing it after I get a few good elbows in.
    you've got a bit of a mean streak there, don't you.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Garland View Post
      you've got a bit of a mean streak there, don't you.
      LOL! I'm helping him improve his game!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by treelizard View Post
        I'm sure he'll stop doing it after I get a few good elbows in. So picking just one thing enables me to at least get SOMEthing in against the studs I spar with who are stronger and faster and train more than I do and have been doing it longer. It also helps them with their game a little because I'm purposely picking up on all the holes I can find. I like it!
        Instead of popping him with a jab or a cross on his opening, you're hitting him with an elbow?

        If its muay thai, sure...but if its straight up Marquis de Queensbury, you may injure or piss off your training partner.

        Are you just tapping the elbow or slamming it?
        Last edited by Tom Yum; 01-21-2007, 05:48 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tom Yum View Post
          Instead of popping him with a jab or a cross on his opening, you're hitting him with an elbow?

          If its muay thai, sure...but if its straight up Marquis de Queensbury, you may injure or piss off your training partner.

          Are you just tapping the elbow or slamming it?
          Wow, y'all are hilarious. We do touch sparring, but actually my training partners like getting hit hard. Elbows aren't necessarily to the face.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by treelizard View Post
            We do touch sparring, but actually my training partners like getting hit hard. Elbows aren't necessarily to the face.
            Touch sparring? It sounds less than full contact - makes sense if you're using elbows.

            Tree, most people do not enjoy getting full-contact all the time because you can get injured and have to stop training.

            Remember kickboxer Pat Smith during his pre-fight interview before stepping in the octagon with Shamrock? He said he liked pain. Shamrock got him in a heel hook and he was indeed in a lot of pain...

            Every now and then, things heat up but that's usually the exception or on special occasion.

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            • #7
              We don't do full-contact standup without protective gear. We do full-contact when we do ground, but you can just tap out. Honestly the guys I train with have been spending a lot of time trying to get me to hit harder, not softer. Anyway, I didn't need a lecture on sparring etiquette. I just thought it was a cool idea to just focus on one thing each class.

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              • #8
                You throw elbows when there dropping their hands...

                So outside of the clinch....

                Hmmm.... interesting...

                Are you related to Anderson Silva at all?

                Because how in the **** are you gonna throw an elbow that lands from punching range.

                I've never tried this, so I'm just wondering, because I've always known that if I do I'll eat a punch or two and they will have moved before I'm there.

                The clinch is a different story but... wierd....

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                • #9
                  I was talking clinch range. Though I try not to define ranges by techniques.

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                  • #10
                    1) If elbows are in your game, then you've got to spar them.

                    2) If you're sparring elbows and somebody gives you an opening for an elbow, you should use your elbow.

                    3) It's pretty common to seee Thai's set up an elbow with a jab from outside and close to range.



                    I don't mean this as a flame guys, but why the surprise that TL trains with elbows? Fightin's mean, elbows are mean, mean is what we do around these parts isn't it?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by treelizard View Post
                      LOL! I'm helping him improve his game!
                      That is a sweet quote. btw. I'm using it next time I hit somebody

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gregimotis View Post
                        1) If elbows are in your game, then you've got to spar them.
                        2) If you're sparring elbows and somebody gives you an opening for an elbow, you should use your elbow.
                        3) It's pretty common to seee Thai's set up an elbow with a jab from outside and close to range.

                        I don't mean this as a flame guys, but why the surprise that TL trains with elbows? Fightin's mean, elbows are mean, mean is what we do around these parts isn't it?
                        In every thai boxing gym or class I've attended, or seminar...where there's been sparring...NEVER has anyone allowed elbows or knees to the face in a full contact sparring situation.

                        You don't train to get hurt. You have to create a safe environment to train... from what she says...she's not throwing elbows hard...she's touch sparring, right? Otherwise her partners would be leaving with smashed eye sockets, missing teeth, and huge facial lacerations.

                        It's like training strikes to the groin in FMA...you may mock it...but you don't actually do it in a sparring situation.

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                        • #13
                          Sure, you're right Garland.

                          We train elbows with headgear, elbow pads, and lots of care. I assume she's touch sparring or something like that - it goes without saying (or ought to anyway). Maybe she trains with a bulletman, I don't know.

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                          • #14
                            We either do touch sparring or we wear gear. Not only do I think that goes without saying, I also think that it'd be much easier for someone's instructor and/or training partners to determine whether someone is elbowing too hard in class or not (and respond accordingly.)

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                            • #15
                              We wear a plastic faced head gear and spar in MMA gloves. This allows us to throw elbows with good solid contact without injury.
                              If you're a Muay Thai oriented MMA fighter I totally recommend it!
                              It allows us to refine our elbows in sparring even more effectively than typical MT training.

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