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  • #16
    Oh, sorry! I didn't answer some!

    Is what we see in those movies accurate?

    I never saw Gangs of New York, and I don't believe that I saw far and away, so I cannot tell you one way or another. I have seen Irish streetfights and am privy to old fighting films so I am talking from a little experience (still not much).


    Are there any advantages to this stance?

    Yes. To the well-trained fighter you have reach, you can't really sway side to side very well, but that's where the hopping comes back in. The english are more planted, which gives them more sway, but on the tapes that I have seen, and on accounts from trainers and fighters, they still don't sway that much. I think that's why English fighters drop their hands lower, and/or move their arms in wider circles, depending on the fighter.

    You also have a decptive left if used correctly, along with a enigmatic right.


    For a reigonal thing so I would say yes. As a world-wide fighting style, no fighting style can say that with any certanity. Not gracie Ju-Jitsu, not Karate, not Testa, not Hisradut, none of them. Each situation is different and varies between environment and art. It would be foolish to use Gracie Ju-Jitsu in a firefight. Too many things going boom to care about just one person. Hisradut would be more fitting, since the art are includes techniques to lob back grenades. In Jail it would be foolish, because if you are being attacked, most often it would be in a confined space by more than one person, and often armed as well. 52 blocks style or jailhouse Boxing would be the most fitting. In a armed streetfight where you have weapons from heavy biker chains to guns, well honestly, I'd run like heck if I could! But if I couldn't, some sort of Navy S.E.A.L. techniques would be the best. Those suckers are hard to get at when there's a million things happening at once. If they can't control the confusion, they know how to work well within it.

    Oh, well. That's just my two cents.
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    • #17
      what's 52 blocks style?

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      • #18
        "some sort of Navy S.E.A.L. techniques would be the best"

        i've known a few SEALs and as much as you have to admire them for what they do, most of them can't fight H2H. they aren't trained for it regularly. the ones that can usually train on their own outside of their combat training.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by amadeus
          "some sort of Navy S.E.A.L. techniques would be the best"

          i've known a few SEALs and as much as you have to admire them for what they do, most of them can't fight H2H. they aren't trained for it regularly. the ones that can usually train on their own outside of their combat training.
          true.... but on the positive side, they are stronger and better conditioned than your average joe. And they have machine guns and air support.

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          • #20
            Traditional form

            I once tried the more traditional form and it was far more effective in terms of reaching high. If your opponent is taller than you, it enables you to reach higher. Secondly, with the first turned the other way, the opponent gets the rougher end of the knuckle. Not to mention, most people haven't seen that form so it shocks the hell of your buddies as well as kicking some good ass.
            Has anyone else had a try of both forms to be able to tell? Rgs, Michael Watts.

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            • #21
              About the boxers i have a scottish background and my dad told me that they used to do that because they used to get more power because before they hit they twisted there hand so it was like a normal punch but with more force behind it like a basic karate punch.

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              • #22
                Maybe using this punch can lower the chances of the boxers fracture?? seems using this punch gives you more percision?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by HandtoHand
                  Many martail artists dont want to admit it but the military effectivly trains individuals in hand to hand combat (espesciall the spec ops community) in a brief peroid of time. The moves are simples, leathal, deadly and effective and have hardly no crap unlike many traditional martail arts. The average navy seal would beat the eat the average martail artist for breakfast.

                  yer kidding right!? i've been in both the navy and the army (as infantry)..... sorry to say but the military teaches you just enuff to get yer ass kicked in a bar fight. like i said before those in the military that can fight are either naturally giftd fighters or they train somewhere else on their own time.

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