Boxing a Slugger

[Turing]

Whats some advice you guys would give for boxing a slugger? Someone a bit bigger and stronger but who knows less about the boxing game and has less technique.

I'm about 5 '2 and 110
He is about 5 '8 and 125

[NWPTrainer]

Stick and move! Stick and Move!

Seriously, is it a fight or a boxing match/sparring? If it's a sparring match/boxing match, use footwork and defensive techniques to wear him out hitting him with jabs when you can slip one in.

If it's a fight, close with the enemy and destroy him. Get inside fast and rip him up with hoosk and uppercuts, and all the "dirty" boxing tricks you can learn that are outlawed in teh Queensbury rules. Hook, then clip him with an elbow,etc...

The difference between a boxing bout and fight are dramatic and real. You need to fgure out what your mission is before you can determine how to execute it.

RLTW

[Wilson]

Hahah, sounds like the other guy is a skinny little bastard. He probably won't be strong at all.

[toe-hold]

this guy is 5 foot 8 inches 125 POUNDS?? This should be a real clash of the titans. Technique and footwork shuold easily bridge the size gap. Something you could do to gain a mental edge is to nail him right in the nose in the very beginning of the fight, this may cause him to hesitate later. and dont think you will win, know you will.

[MrBoxerGrappler]

When the fight starts show nothing but confidence...

Look him right in the eye. The bigger guy especially one like you said who has less training then you will look at you and think that he is just going to mop the canvas with you. Show no intimidation at all and like was said before stick and move. you have a smaller build use it to your advantage, it makes you a harder target to strike. Slip the jab early....it is always frustarating for a bigger opponent if you work your hand speed and tap him a couple times on the chin or nose...he will get frustarated and sloppy..

[Turing]

Thanks.

Thanks guys. We are both fairly skinny but he is actually quite strong. He can do chin-ups all day long. A couple specific things I was thinking of was to fake a left hook to the body, he'll hopefully drop his elbow down, which in turn will expose the chin, then come in with a real one right after, a la Frazier knocking down Ali. I also was thinking of stepping to the right a little so he has to readjust his stance then pop him, I suppose with maybe a right cross.

[dkm]

Re: Thanks.

Originally posted by Turing
Thanks guys. We are both fairly skinny but he is actually quite strong. He can do chin-ups all day long. A couple specific things I was thinking of was to fake a left hook to the body, he'll hopefully drop his elbow down, which in turn will expose the chin, then come in with a real one right after, a la Frazier knocking down Ali. I also was thinking of stepping to the right a little so he has to readjust his stance then pop him, I suppose with maybe a right cross.

I've never seen anyone's planned moves to such details actually come true in reality. Stop planning your exact moves and think about the overall strategy. What you gonna do if the fight lasts 5 seconds, 5 minutes, 50 minutes, etc etc?

[Tom Yum]

Keep the pressure on him with jabs/feints. Is he orthodox or south paw? I assume you're right handed. Remember keep your hands up, keep your head moving left and right, mix it up to make your head a moving target (not backward unless you're Ali). Make him move to hit you, move around him just out of his range. Get him tired just trying to get you, and pick on him with hard stinging jabs.

If he's south paw stay just to the left of his right hand and keep moving to your left- keep your left hand up in case of he decides to use a left hook. while throwing the jab - double low and then upstairs. Being shorter, its easier to jab low then high rather than high-low as his arm is probably longer. But this is not to say that you shouldn't jab high or feint to create openings. If he is south paw, you can occasionally lead your attack with a right cross.

If he's orthodox, try to stay just the right of his left and keep that right hand up and covering your jaw/face to protect his jab/left hook. Double jab, triple jab changing levels high-high-low, low-high-low, then faint a low (for example) and come over the top with a right cross. Use your jab not only as a strong stinger, but to fake him out, set him up, move in for your combo and then move again.

Watch CAREFULLY how he reacts and let that determine what you do next and whatever you do, unleash on him. He's bigger and stronger than you, so don't charge him (unless he's gasping for air) and don't run backwards if he charges you otherwise you are playing to his advantage. If you do step back, make it a short step (not a retreat) and come right back forward with a right cross - for a split milisecond he thinks you're retreating and willl run into your punch.

Don't play his game. He charges at you with jabs and crosses, circle right to change the angle and check him with a left body hook, right cross to body and left hook to the head.

OK that might be too much information but get in there and fight smart, don't brawl the big guy. CREATE your openings. Make this a battle of the minds and your body as an expression of it, don't make this a battle of the bodies.

[Turing]

:-)

The fight was shortly ago. I'm happy to say I won!

Round 1:
I nailed him with a jab in the nose early and he was visibly shaken. He tried throwing haymakers and I'd see em all coming and slip and slip and slip. He got my ears real good a few times from that, but I reckon the face would have been a lot worse. He admits he wasn't calm and it shows. He had no experience so he wasn't calm, and he was looking pretty hard for air. However there is no doubt in my mind his is in better shape then me. GOOOOO EXPERIENCE!

Round 2:
More of the same from round 1. A nice notable thing is I saw he left his body exposed by having his elbows facing out a little, rather then more straight down. I let him know this a few times with punches, then used it to my advantage. I threw the fake jab to the body, then right cross to the chin like I wanted. It worked perfect. Rocked the chin real good with the right :-) He went for a haymaking right, and locked out his arm. I slipped inside a little and threw a jab into the punch. He dropped to the ground in a lot of pain. He said he thought he dislocated his shoulder. He was on the ground for like a minute. When he was on the ground I ripped my gloves and wraps off and was wondering if we'd have to go to the hospital or something Anywho he decided he was fine after and then got up and we rested for a few minutes while I put my wraps back on and then went another two rounds.
Round 3 and 4 were more of the same. He however is my best friend and after I'd get him once good, or I'd see him wheezing for air hardcore I'm sure I could have capitalized but I didn't since he is a good friend of mine. After round 1 he said "You know I learned something, technique and experience beat out power" and after the fight he said "Thanx for the lesson"

[Tom Yum]

Good job. Try not to beat up your friends! Did you tatoo him with your jab?

Sounds like you frustrated the heck out of him early, with your conditioning and game better than his. Did you notice how he behaved when you landed solid shots? That's why boxers allways dog on karate people.

Now get back into the gym and get with a coach. When you start sparring guys with experience, they keep a good poker face even though you nail them in the gut. Don't let em know what's going on in yer head!!

[Turing]

More info

My conditioning isn't better then his I don't think. He can lift more then me, run farther, and run faster . The thing was he wasn't calm like I was so he was tiring himself out quickly. Most of the time I keep a pretty good face, but he landed one good shot on my nose and I sort of like grunted lol. But he physically showed signs of pain on many occasions after a good shot.