Wing Chun - an overview of its training methods and effectiveness.

[m.artist]

Yes, you are right in this... cause for me, Chin Na KungFu is very effective art compare to a Southern Eagle Claw KungFu for many reasons......

Chin Na's best level of art is in its "Poison Hand" or cavity press, delayed death touch, as well as his level of - sealing the vein, sealing the breath, dividing muscles/tendons/joints. 108 death cavities (72 paralyzing cavities, 36 instant death cavities)

while.....

Southern Eagle Claw KungFu - an inch of depth of 3fingers injected to their known attacking points.... bloodshed in every hand attack that connects....

Note:
since in Chin Na KungFu has more techniques compared to Southern Eagle Claw then Chin Na will win......

Learning Aikido is a waste of time.

One of The best combination is:
Chin Na KungFu with Southern Eagle Claw KungFu with WingChun KungFu with Lohan KungFu

Why?????
the benefits:
1. Chin Na : Seizing Art of KungFu
2. Souther Eagle Claw KungFu : Seizing Art of KungFu
3. WingChun KungFu : ShortDistance / Scientific form of fighting
4. Lohan KungFu : Medium to LongDistance / Iron Skin(Golden Bell Cover)

a very beautiful blend of all solid KungFu's..........

if u were a real martial artists then u would know that all arts have something to offer. i know i have said some things about tae kwon do. but i never said it was useless. there are always things to learn from every art. and just so you know. i don't think ur lying

[bartjam]

Does anyone know a good grapling art that goes well with Wing Chun?

you are growing up fast mate... good question. Combat Sambo or Catch-as-catch can wrestling or also gracie-JJ would be fine I think

[kobra]

you are growing up fast mate... good question. Combat Sambo or Catch-as-catch can wrestling or also gracie-JJ would be fine I think

Kangojutsu is mucxh more effective than gracie JJ although you need a 110v power supply.

[Tiger Claw]

"Incidentally I've found the psychological side of fighting (for real) plays a large part in who wins. Since learning Shredder I win most of my close sparring now due to the fact I talk to the opponent and scare the living **** out of them when I (simulate) biting and growl like a raving alsatian (this is before I put my hands anywhere near their face)"


This may work for some ppl. Me and my friend way back used bark at ppl and almost killed a biker doing so (scared him he swerved and almost hit a trailer truck). It's funny you mention this too. Yesterday a dude at my tkd dojang was making demond noises (he lost his head that day) and started attacking me very uncontrollable. He honestly is a easy person to spar against and never hits me (not lying he sux). Right when I kicked him with a roundhouse a tad bit harder than intended in the head the instructor yelled kamod (korean for stop and don't know if I spelled that right) and told me we will get you a new sparring partner, lol. I dunno whats wrong with this dude but it woke me up a bit and I sparred better but still maintaining control not to hurt him (I was sure he lost it by the noises he made and the attacks he threw).

[Tiger Claw]

As for wing chun I do not think their punches are as good as kickboxing or boxing. I have kickboxing in my tkd and my straight punch will break a noise without a problem. I know how to do wing chun punches and they are weak. There is not enough hip action. All your power comes from the hip. I can punch very fast with regular punches. I wouldn't hold that punch up too high. My friend takes wing chun, and I don't see any power in that punch. I have sparred aganst him and he did well. I wouldn't knock the art. I think the monkey form is a bad idea. I wouldn't want to get in that position in a fight. Unfortuantly we had to stop when he blocked my hook kick and broke his finger . I'm not bad mouthing at all he got me with a nice eye strike and I lost a contact, lol. I am wondering if all this talk about their magical chi stories are real or bs. I say magical because I havn't seen anything they described before. I dismiss the school though, because I do not want to be feed bs (if the chi thing is) He tells me some wacked out stuff that I am unsure of with energy. It is also totally different than kenpo karate and taekwondo/kickboxing. Kenpo mixes very well with tkd. I don't thing wing chun would at all.

[Tameo]

A wing chun punch can have a lot more power than a tkd or kickboxing punch and a lot more speed. Yesterday i was sparring with a intermediate wing chun practitioner and he almost dislocated my jaw with a wc punch that wasnt even really hard. As for speed,William Cheung made a world record at 8.3 punches per second using wing chun punches and each punch had about 200 punds of pressure.

[jules]

A wing chun punch can have a lot more power than a tkd or kickboxing punch and a lot more speed.

wow you puch harder than TKD... Want a cookie?

Yesterday i was sparring with a intermediate wing chun practitioner and he almost dislocated my jaw with a wc punch that wasnt even really hard.

Perhaps you are just glass jawed

As for speed,William Cheung made a world record at 8.3 punches per second using wing chun punches and each punch had about 200 punds of pressure.

"Yes, I've heard. Kills men by the hundreds, and if he were here he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his ass. "

Please provide some proof to back up this bullshit claim.

[Tiger Claw]

somehow it double posted when I edited odd. This is a link to the grandmaster that guy is talking about (you should of given us a link so far I have not seen anything about how hard he can hit with that punch)http://www.cheungswingchun.com

[Tiger Claw]

This week is punches only week. I punch way harder than my wing chun friend. I don't know how many pounds of pressure my punches are, but I nearly knock down pad holders (around my weight class which isn't much it's all in the legs, shoulders and hips guys) down with a jab (which distracts and has no telgraph) reverse punch combo from my guard in my left fighting stance. I tried the wing chun punches and they do crap damage. Good for sparring but not powerful enough for me. Why else would bruce go to boxing for punches if the wing chun punch is any good? We also have a heavy bag. Try your punch on a heavy bag and see what happens. I've hit the thing so much my knuckles used to bleed until they got hard. I also tested out kicks on the heavy bag and can tell what would be a bad idea.

[Hot Sauce]

Bruce Lee's version of the Wing Chun Long Bridge power = one inch punch = weak?

Bruce Lee couldn't continue training Wing Chun?

William Cheung is a self proclaimed Grandmaster.

[Tiger Claw]

Bruce Lee's version of the Wing Chun Long Bridge power = one inch punch = weak?

Bruce Lee couldn't continue training Wing Chun?

William Cheung is a self proclaimed Grandmaster.

The one inch punch is nothing more than a push. It was not a version of wing chun long bridge power it is in kung fu systems. There is also a crane wing that does the same deal. It takes way to much time and doesn't hurt. I let kung fu ppl use it on me. It sends you flying back pretty neat but nothing more than show. I saw cheung on the wooden dumby nothing impressive at all. I think he is a sell out. I think it is true that bruce didn't continue a wing chun school I believe because he was not pure chinese. I think that was when he was younger and went to another school /shrug.

[m.artist]

The one inch punch is nothing more than a push. It was not a version of wing chun long bridge power it is in kung fu systems. There is also a crane wing that does the same deal. It takes way to much time and doesn't hurt. I let kung fu ppl use it on me. It sends you flying back pretty neat but nothing more than show. I saw cheung on the wooden dumby nothing impressive at all. I think he is a sell out. I think it is true that bruce didn't continue a wing chun school I believe because he was not pure chinese. I think that was when he was younger and went to another school /shrug.

he was cantonese..but that's pretty much chinese..and he was full chinese

[Thai Bri]

Who was: The guy with a German mother?

[Tameo]

Please provide some proof to back up this bullshit claim.

Its in the 84 book of world records i think or 80something

[sherwinc]

This week is punches only week. I punch way harder than my wing chun friend. I don't know how many pounds of pressure my punches are, but I nearly knock down pad holders (around my weight class which isn't much it's all in the legs, shoulders and hips guys) down with a jab (which distracts and has no telgraph) reverse punch combo from my guard in my left fighting stance. I tried the wing chun punches and they do crap damage. Good for sparring but not powerful enough for me. Why else would bruce go to boxing for punches if the wing chun punch is any good? We also have a heavy bag. Try your punch on a heavy bag and see what happens. I've hit the thing so much my knuckles used to bleed until they got hard. I also tested out kicks on the heavy bag and can tell what would be a bad idea.

as i told you before, Bruce Lee is a very wise, Bruce Lee makes you stupid... why?????

because in KungFu..... WHAT YOU SEE IS NOT!!!!!!!

Bruce Lee's Movie Art is Jeet Kune Do

while....

Bruce Lee's Actual/Real Street Fight is WingChunKungFu, WuTaiChiKungFu, and AngKaKungFu

You said WingChun's punch has no power??????? as i told you before... What You See Is Not.... you are only relying on your eyes, you dont know the KungFu principle of "A FIST IS NOT A FIST, THE WHOLE BODY BECOMES A FIST"..... and all i can say is...... You practice a FAKE WingChun..... why????? cause if you only practice a true traditional art of WingChun you will automatically reject your previous martial art learned.....


CONVINCED????????