William Cheung's Traditional Wing Chun

[Thai Bri]

At least I believe the evidence of my own eyes.

[Tameo]

and you are the biggest troll on these forums

[Tameo]

He got surounded by wing tsun people and boztepe not his own students dumb ****.

[Thai Bri]

Tell me you're trolling! Haw haw haw1 Just how many of these excuses are you going to use?

Tell me, was Cheung in this training hall all by himself? Was his seminar so poorly attended that no one showed up?

[Tameo]

All you post is horse shit. Not one good post from you yet.

[Tameo]

No it aint as simple as that. the crowd was not made up of william cheung's students, and the thing about the magasine article you probably read off of boztep's site. it was an ambush and its a fact that the clip was heavily edited. And some kung fu slipers ARE really damn slipery.

[Thai Bri]

Horse shit. Most of those people were Cheung's students.

Cheung constantly boasted in the MA press how he was the ONLY guy to be taught "real" Wing Chun, and that he could take 0on anyone, any time, any where.

Boztepe approached him at the seminar with a copy of one of these articles. He said words to the effect of "is this true"? When Cheung said yes, they fought, and rolled about like girl guides.

For years Cheung only complained that his Kung Fu slippers let him down. But now, of course, we have an array of nonsense, including:-

The clip is edited
Cheung actually won
Cheung was ambushed
The crowd would have killed Cheung if he had not let Boztepe win
His slippers were, well, slippery



It goes on and on. Cheung put himself on a pedestal. Boztepe knocked him off it. It is as simple as that.

[Tameo]

"Grandmaster William Cheung, of Traditional Wing Chun, had been asked to take time out of his busy seminar schedule to give a special two day seminar in Germany. Always happy to accommodate people, Grandmaster Cheung added the two days, unknowingly stepping in to a detailed plan set up by Leung Ting to defame him. The end result was an illegally distributed and highly edited video clip that wound up as an addition to Leung Ting's video tape Dynamic Wing Tsun, and did nothing more but to further hurt the image of Wing Chun Kung Fu."

[Tameo]

I call getting surounded by a crowd of people with camera's and then one guy starting to talk shit and attacking you an ambush.

[Thai Bri]

Lets see the original then. Post it so we can all be educated.

And as for Boztepe wouldn't have had a chance but for the ambush:-

1. It wasn't an ambush. No one came up with that daft idea for 15 years.
2. Did Cheung win or not? You cannot logically say "Cheung won, but would not have lost but for the fact he was ambushed"

Convinced?

[Tameo]

The clip you see on the internet with boztepe and cheung is a heavily edited clip which makes boztepe look like he is in control. If you want to see what really happened find the original clip with cheung push kicking boztepe, and actually ull see that boztepe wouldnt have a chance were it a real fight and not a gay ambush.

[Thai Bri]

Yes, the non Traditional one. He calls it traditiona as, of course, he holds on to his absurd claim that only he (and now a few others) was taught real Wing Chun. He is as credible as sherwinc convinced.

Note:

When Master make challenge, accept challenge and get arse kicked, Master fake Master when he waits 15 years and pretends he won convinced.

[Tameo]

Im talking about the lineage that William Cheung teaches

[Thai Bri]

How many lineages call themselves "traditional"?

[Tameo]

I found that the traditional wc is better because of 50/50 weight distribution, no leaning on back foot when you move, enabling you to move much faster and have more balance. Also the hand movements are better i think because for example- the bong-sao is more extended, so it does not collapse when it meets to much resistance. It deflects a punch better that way. The twc guard is better because it protects your head better. The footwork is different cause in twc we step toe-heel, and have 50/50 balance, and don’t pivot the feet like the modified wcers do. We lift are feet to step around opponent's leg, and the pivoting can be good on a slippery floor, but if your on a rough surface you cant pivot as well and you become slower with your footwork. In twc it doesn’t matter what surface you are on because you lift your feet more. i noticed the modified wcers are pretty good at really close range like elbow range therefore really good at chi-sao, but are really bad when they are a little further out, at wrist range and kicking range. I noticed when I spar a modified wc dude he tries to jump into really close range, because he sucks in wrist range. Thats just my oppinion and reasons why i do twc instead of some other lineage.