Conditioning the Hands Part I (Introduction)

[IronFist]

He's not a martial artist..a martial artist DOES NOT take life to prove a point....I standby what I say..

Mas Oyama is one of the 'saints' of Karate. Do not disrespect him.

Oyama also staged his bullfights for show, for the record. This does not discredit him as a martial arist. Many Japanese masters resorted to showboat techniques to popularize asian fighting arts in the Americas and Europe. Do not believe everything you read at first glance

[chris davis 200]

Mas Oyama was a martial artist of great stature and skill.

A man who dedicatd his entire life to the pursute of perfection in Combat.

He was not however a spiritual teacher like ueshiba of aikido. His ethics etc were based in the persute of the warrior way.

I do not believe in some of his ideals or methods (especially the Bull thing).

But he was a great and pinical figure in the Karate world, and still stands out as one of the best Karate fighters ever to have lived.

It is not for me to say what anyone should think or do, but i dont judge someone on a single act that i may disagree with, i look at their life as a whole.

Regards
Chris

[yentao]

He's not a martial artist..a martial artist DOES NOT take life to prove a point....I standby what I say..

Most Karateka like to smash things and kill things for strength and training. This is also the same for kung fu masters especially in Kwantung who trains in IRON FIST favours a lot smashing things to and even killing some even use it for killing people that is why some of them where even called fist bandits back before they really don't care if they are called a martial artist or not as long as they can defend themselves or for their interest. Kung fu became essential for rebellion in the Boxer rebellion. I think most kung fu schools became more focus in weaponry in the last two centuries until guns is accessible to all that is why only few kung fu school teaches good quality empty hand techniques.

[holyman]

U FORGET THAT BRICKS AND BOARDS DO NOT HIT BACK

Most Karateka like to smash things and kill things for strength and training. This is also the same for kung fu masters especially in Kwantung who trains in IRON FIST favours a lot smashing things to and even killing some even use it for killing people that is why some of them where even called fist bandits back before they really don't care if they are called a martial artist or not as long as they can defend themselves or for their interest. Kung fu became essential for rebellion in the Boxer rebellion. I think most kung fu schools became more focus in weaponry in the last two centuries until guns is accessible to all that is why only few kung fu school teaches good quality empty hand techniques.

[IronFist]

The next time someone says that I am going to smash a brick or board over thier head

U FORGET THAT BRICKS AND BOARDS DO NOT HIT BACK

[yentao]

U FORGET THAT BRICKS AND BOARDS DO NOT HIT BACK

Hehehe but it hurts if done wrong. I also plan to break bones than bricks. Much softer.

[Ironpalm]

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[koto_ryu]

He's not a martial artist..a martial artist DOES NOT take life to prove a point....I standby what I say..

Samurai used to have a law where whenever they received a new sword, they could test its edge on a nearby peasant. So you're saying you believe they are not martial artists?

Thanks for the herb reciepe though, I'm willing to give that a shot

[Hardball]

Nice thread..........where can I find parts II and III?

[47MartialMan]

But how do you know the lifetime effects? say 30 years or more later?

[Hardball]

I have a number of dit da jow formulas from variuos sources. Most are expensive--$125 or so to make a gallon of jow. Let me know if you are interested.

I'm interested in knowing more about dit da jow the iron palm formula. Does it take 6 months to apply? Can you tell me more about the process?

[Ironpalm]

only the trolls know...

[Hardball]

[QUOTE=Ironpalm]Sure, but the question was a little confusing so If I dont answer the right question ask again. It takes a minimum of 6 weeke to soak and prepare the herbs.

You explain it perfectly. My next question is does it toughen the back side of your hand also? Wouldn't that be Iron Fist?

[Ironpalm]

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[BaguaBoxer]

Testament

I can attest to 2 things because I have trained both the Karate way the way way ironpalm has described. First of all I had begun punching trees and rocks to tuff up my hands when they broke and regrew I received the pleasantness of calcium deposits in my hands which made the stiff and hurt to touch (this may not happen for all). Now when I started what is reffered to as "Ironpalm" and I used the Dit Dow Jow I have had no problems with the deposits or arthritus in my hands. Before every winter my hands would swell and become painful, now they don't. Also my backhand and ridge hand has become much more effective. Punching progrssivly harder objects seems to not only condition your hands but also seems to teach you "how" to punch uneven surfaces like someones face without hurting your hands.