Jackie Chan V Bruce Lee

[Tjang]

You know what I am thinking? Of course you don't, so I will have to write here: I think if you could really put Bruce, Jackie, Jet, and all the other names you have mentioned above into the fighting arena (the Octagon, perhaps, or even the football field) to fight against one another (or each other) I am sure they will NOT fight like in their films. They will just face their oponents and use simple punches and simple kicks... very fast and powerful of course, and you will not see all the tricks and variations they show in films.

Who will win? The fastest one, the strongest one, and the luckiest one, of course. Who do you think he is? Shall we vote, and see who has got the most votes?

[guy incognito]

Ok lets make a poll.Give me some names

[Sanitarium]

Jet Li does Wushu, which is a dance not a martial art really.

he'd lose to both of them.

[Cue Ball]

Who will win? The fastest one, the strongest one, and the luckiest one, of course. Who do you think he is? Shall we vote, and see who has got the most votes?

What's the point? Somewhere between very few and none of us here have any REAL knowledge of what these proponents of the arts are capable of. Therefore it's all purely conjecture, and the "winner" is merely the actor with the most fans on this forum. My answer to the question of "Shall we vote, and see who has got the most votes?" is a resounding no, on the fact that none of us KNOW anything, but we all FEEL that one or two actors are better than the others. Having said that, pointless excercises are better than watching daytime TV, so my call would have to be Jet Li.

[guy incognito]

Ive seen some definate Pa kua/Hsing I in one of his movies and he alternates the styles for his alter ego(The one i hthink its called).P.S. Wu shu is far from a dance!

[sherwinc]

Who would win if Jackie Chan versed Bruce Lee in a fight ?

lets take a look at their kungfu background:

1. Jackie Chan Knows:
a. AngKa KungFu (Arhats, Lohan)
b. Five Animals KungFu
c. 8 Immortal Gods Drunken KungFu
d. Choy Li Fut KungFu
e. Monkey KungFu

2. Bruce Lee Knows:
a. Wu Style Tai Chi Chuan KungFu
b. AngKa KungFu (Arhats, Lohan)
c. Praying Mantis KungFu
d. WingChun KungFu
e. WuShu KungFu
f. Tiger & Crane KungFu

Note:
they have a reach a level kind of kungfu comparing each other.... but....

since, it depends upon the person (built, body structure) probably....

we can't judge..... maybe Bruce Lee is great than Jacky Chan but we can't judge since both of them knows KungFu and they reach the same level of expertise.....

non-kungfu is bullshit

[Cue Ball]

Jet Li does Wushu, which is a dance not a martial art really.

he'd lose to both of them.

Step into a wushu kwoon and say that out loud. I dare say someone there will disagree. Someone may even ask you to put your money where your mouth is. Should that happen - especially if it's the Sifu - you WILL find out Wushu is something more than a dance.

[Sanitarium]

Step into a wushu kwoon and say that out loud. I dare say someone there will disagree. Someone may even ask you to put your money where your mouth is. Should that happen - especially if it's the Sifu - you WILL find out Wushu is something more than a dance.

no shit, but I've only recently started JKD. If my sifu went there and sparred with theirs, I think it'd be a different story.

Actually, I dunno. If you got a Wushu guy who was a similiar height/weight to me (5'8 110lbs) I would probably go straight for his head/face with some slaps and elbows or clinch and knee and afaik wushu isn't too hot on knees/elbows.

I've never even heard of wushu being used in any kind of tournaments either. Same for JKD but JKD is basically a combo of muay thai and other stuff anyway (in my dojo anyway).

[IPON]

no shit, but I've only recently started JKD. If my sifu went there and sparred with theirs, I think it'd be a different story.

Or maybe not! don't assume that by virtue of study "JKD" you or your Sifu can beat anyone .... my friend that is simply stupid.

Actually, I dunno. If you got a Wushu guy who was a similiar height/weight to me (5'8 110lbs) I would probably go straight for his head/face with some slaps and elbows or clinch and knee and afaik wushu isn't too hot on knees/elbows.

Slaps, I geuss you refer to pak sao and yes you must have just started so why are you claiming such proficiency and how do you know what a Wushu stylist would do.

I've never even heard of wushu being used in any kind of tournaments either. Same for JKD but JKD is basically a combo of muay thai and other stuff anyway (in my dojo anyway).

MT and other stuff Wushu is a general term for "kung fu" andthey have tornamnets which Jet was a national champion

[Cue Ball]

Well joined Ipon!

Sanitarium, has it ever occured to you why there are very few - if any - Kung Fu tournaments in the Western world? Because people are bound to get seriously hurt. Kung Fu - in any form - is not a sport, at least not in the same way as TKD, Karate, Judo, Mauy Thai, etc.

That "slap" (pok sou) you refer to is a potential fight ender, as are most moves in Kung Fu. At your next lesson, have one of your expeienced classmates deliver a pok sou to the corner of your jaw, below the ear. Then you will understand why tournaments don't go very far. The winners go on, while the losers go to hospital.

As for pissing contests, i.e: My Sifu can do this, my Sifu can do that, It'd be a different question with my Sifu... How old are you? Seriously man, the ranking system is that broad yet undefined that you can't know. Unless I'm mistaken, after Sifu (Master) comes Sigung (Grand Master). Which of course means that one Sifu may have just attained the rank, while another is just about to be promoted up (unlikeley I grant you). People who think in the "pissing contest" manner often come a cropper when it comes to the crunch. It has something to do with overconfidence.

Do yourself a favor: learn your art. With it, you may learn that it dosen't matter who's best, who's fastest, who's strongest. It's the guy that gets in the first strike the wins.

[MAMike]

.... but JKD is basically a combo of muay thai and other stuff anyway (in my dojo anyway).

This statement shows that you doesn't know about what you speaks. In your place I would rather think over other things.

Another 2 cents: For using the elbow, you have to bridging the distance at first.....

Wushu is a general term for "kung fu"

You're right. Wushu means "War(rior) Arts" and is a general term for the chinese kung fu styles.

Regards, Mike

[guy incognito]

Pok sou! Im giving em out free to whoever wants one!
Seriously though Jet Li's Wu shu skills are of the highest order.Jackie's improvisation is the work of a master and bruce baby well thirty years on and we are still talking about him.Enough said.

[jubaji]

Sanitarium, has it ever occured to you why there are very few - if any - Kung Fu tournaments in the Western world? Because people are bound to get seriously hurt. Kung Fu - in any form - is not a sport, at least not in the same way as TKD, Karate, Judo, Mauy Thai, etc.
That "slap" (pok sou) you refer to is a potential fight ender, as are most moves in Kung Fu. Then you will understand why tournaments don't go very far. The winners go on, while the losers go to hospital.

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Here we go again...

[guy incognito]

Here we go again...

Whats wrong?
Sounds like your not CONVINCED!!!!!!

[m.artist]

Jet Li does Wushu, which is a dance not a martial art really.

he'd lose to both of them.

ya and bjj doesn't win in ufc either. there is an olympic wushu. yes you are correct in saying that that is basically a dance. but there is a "battle" style of wushu and that is what jet li took. do i think he or jackie chan could beat bruce? no. the only person i can think of that would give him a challenge would be Morihei Ueshiba. And even then it would be pretty close.

and sherwinc
parts b,e, and f on the list of bruce lee's arts...totally not true