Afraid of MMA competition

[Tom Yum]

Respect is the key word. I can understand where all this kung fu bashing started from & I admit that I myself have witness many kung fu fighters loosing embarassingly against other MA. The ratio is like 1 out of 10 kung fu fighter will only excell well. The problem is too many kung fu fighters are over confident, ill prepared & ill trained & get carry away by "fantasy" kung fu.

And when we see a "kung fu" guy fight successfully in tournaments the responds of the public is always "oh he is training in this, & that.... those are not kung fu moves"

There are also many "mackwoon" kung fu out there just like "macdojo" they don`t take their training of students seriously. You see, to train for combat or ring fighting requires a lot of time & effort. And I believe that ring fighters know that.

Many of this kung fu schools don`t train price fighters but many of those students recklessly & yet very bold to participate in tournaments.

Just like last March, I attended this Tiger Balm Martial Art tournament. And this local "oriental looking guy" fighting in san shou couldn`t even deliver a proper kick or punch.

The bottom line is, no MA is superior over the other it all boils down to the individual superiority. Just like Ali is superior then G. Foreman even though they are both boxers.

Very often those great fighters like Gracie will not publicly talk ill or bash other MA. Trash talk & bashing are for publicity stunt good for selling something by making the competitor look bad.

Hi Konghan, I appreciate your threads man, your humility and humble attitude probably make you a great instructor.

[Thai Bri]

Personally I don't differentiate between where minds came from.

Can someone just tell me wha these great things are?

[Dim Wit Moc]

Thanks for the bug in the ear Mr. Tom Yum. This is a positive idiom, by the way.

[Tom Yum]

Bri, you've got to pick up the books and read them for yourself. Whenever I pickup Sun Tzu (as it is spelled in the wade-giles system ) I find something new. Sunzi was a military advisor who developed strategies for war, organization, and leadership in China during the warring states period (600AD?). His influence was big in Japan during the time of the Empire of Japan (1800's) and is directly referenced in the Hagakure, a book that describes the code of the Samurai.

Mao Tse Tung (that darn wade-giles again!!) was well versed in Sunzi as are most of China's leaders since.

There are college classes in business management that use sunzi as one of its texts.

Zhuangzi is probably the polar opposite of Sunzi and equally catchy, like yin and yang..lol

Here's an online version.

http://www.chinapage.com/sunzi-e.html

[Thai Bri]

Nah.

I like books with pictures in them.

[jubaji]

there is no secrets in kung fu, its all about character & good wisdom. but then again, i`m very sure that if you are so eager to prove yourself, why don`t you start challenging all the kung fu schools in your area ? it doesn`t have to be televised nor does it have to be in the UFC. And if you`er finish with that you can travel to China & publicly announce your challenge.

other than that, just what you said PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

A very clumsy attempt to turn the focus.


Failed attempt.

[Thai Bri]

There are numerous survival techniques which I do not care to discuss here, but the information is readily available if you look for it.

My bul shit detector is going off. Survival techniques? Come on, these must mean more than the theories in these books.

What are they, or is this yet another case of Kung Fu trying to claim superiority by going all secretive and mystical?

[Tom Yum]

Not sure what Dim Wit Moc is referring to?

The books are legendary for their wisdom, insight, and tactical knowledge but don't teach any hand to hand techniques per se.

[Thai Bri]

Did he even mention them?

Its the same old story, Yummy Bear taking things off track again.

Convinced?

[konghan]

The requirements to be a true great kung fu fighter or master is to have strong shin, strong thighs, strong stomach, strong rib cage, strong chest, strong forearm, strong arm, strong shoulder, strong neck & a perfect hip power. A powerful punch, training in iron fingers for strong grip, & training in either iron palm or knife hand. Then they have to be scholarly knowledge of chinese medicine, philosophy, science, literature, history & math. Many original kung fu masters don`t have a "toilet paper" length of credentials becuase just trying to accomplishe those creteria will take 10+ years to achieve they barely have time to learn other MA. Beside if they can master half of those skills which most of them did they`ll already be invincible against ordinary fighters or against ring fighters.

Most good masters of kung fu are not interested in prooving their fighting kung fu skills to others but they are more interested in healing people & working to help their community to become a better & safer place to live in as well as propagating kung fu to young & future generation of chinese & to all those who wish to learn the philosphy of martial art kung fu.

Kung Fu is to China, Football or Baseball is to USA, Hockey is to Canada & Soccer is to Europe.

[jubaji]

Beside if they can master half of those skills which most of them did they`ll already be invincible against ordinary fighters or against ring fighters.

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"invincible"

There's the word I knew was coming! hahahhahaahahahahahaahahhaaa

Bring on the clowns...

[jubaji]

Most good masters of kung fu are not interested in prooving their fighting kung fu skills to others .

That is very convenient!

[Dim Wit Moc]

History is full of lessons to be learned. A person must be willing to do some digging and draw conclusions. I pick up on the tone of comments real well, and have a hard time opening up to someone who is just going to say their sensors are picking up toro caca. If a clan, nation, individual, crime syndicate, or anyone else is going to war, it should be apparent that secrets not be divulged to the opposition. Deception, trickery, misinformation and all sorts of ruses must be used. If I'm going to stab someone in the back, I'm not going to show the knife and give a lecture on how I am going to do it. If I'm going to do a "Yellow Dog Digs in the Sand" technique, I'm not going to tip my hand before I do it. I am certainly not going to reveal how I am going to screw over the enemy no matter how much he taunts me. The "logic" I am hearing is that if someone doesn't reveal how he is going to do me in, he must not know how to do it, escapes me.

Perhaps Israeli tank forces should have tipped off the Arabs when they employed the new tactic of the retreating ambush. This caused the Russian advisors to rethink their whole tank strategy because they expected the enemy to just sit there and be overrun by superior numbers. This is what they had experienced in World War II engagements, and they expected the same stupidity to go on forever.

Chinese masters would teach their systems only to a select few and they were always Chinese. They kept many secrets that they did not even teach their own pupils to always have the advantage. Maybe they should have taught potential enemies these secrets because these individuals threw barbs their way. By golly, the enemy would then know that this guy wasn't just full of baloney, but actually did know something. I don't think the masters gave a rat's behind what these antagonistic fellows thought.

Come to think of it, we should have told the Nazi's our strategies and tactics so they would know we weren't stupid and the battles would have been more fair.

Of all the kung fu animals, the leopard is my favorite. It is a treacherous cat, that attacks from ambush, with a ferocity unmatched in the animal world. If it walked up to the prey in the open, it would join the saber-tooth cat. I can be as faithful as the family dog or as treacherous as the leopard. It is my ying and yang. I can tell you how I have done this on two occasions in the last two days, and the other guy didn't even know what happened. This did not happen in the physical arena. Kung fu can be as direct as any ring competitor with tiger techniques or use nurturing force with crane techniques. It can wrap a problem up and take it down using the snake, and not be there when Igor wants to kill, maim or destroy when using the dragon.

I can almost hear the refrain now and it goes something like this. "What a crock of b _ _ _." Oh really? Problem solving can be physical, it can be psychological, it can be many things. I practice this kung fu in everyday life and have had success. It's hard to quantify how much, but I am satisfied.

If this is too esoteric, then it will have to remain that way. If a person wants the direct and easy to understand approach, I guess they could just buy a gun and shoot their problems. But then again, this approach could take their freedom away for a long time. This brings us back to the proposition that the smart thing to do is do your enemy in and walk off smelling like a rose. This requires the use of the brain as well as the physical.

[sherwinc]

Because they were afraid we would find out the truth behind their mystical secrets. When you put them under a microscope they go poof into thin air.

and if the kungfu join the UFC, then to a surprise, the UFC opponent shock-to-surprise cause he notice that the kungfu fighter hiding his Twin-Double-Edged KungFu Sword unto my both knees.... will you ever still have guts to fight??????

is it legal?????? are you sure that if the kungfu kill his UFC opponent using his daggers - he will not put into Jail???????

Note:
kungfu doesnt mean fist fighting, it includes sets of KungFu weapons and using the obstacles of his sorroundings as an advantages......
for example: Wall Corners, land patches besides your feet, chairs & tables besides you & your opponent, the wall at my back, the oncoming trucks along our way, sticks & other obstacles near on both of us, etc.... it is a part of kungfu...... required just to win a fight......

[sherwinc]

And I can jump over the Moon. I just choose not to because I'm so 'zenned up'.

perhaps, a Human Dummy, no need to emphasize blocking, neutralizing, deflecting, parrying, etc..... instead....... they use to block opponents fist using their head and body...... totally a HUMAN DUMMY......

thats the reason why for a simple answer, the human dummy cant understand since their head is not capable to handle enourmos amount of fist landed.... since it is a human dummy non-kungfu martial arts.....