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  • #46
    Originally posted by sherwinc
    True!!!!!

    why??????

    cause i challenged one of my KungFu classmate, he has a background of Shorin-Ryu Karate before...... but he is more than twice as big as me although i am taller than him about 1 inch.......

    the rules????

    ok, i told him that he will not use is AngKa KungFu instead..... he will use only Shorin-Ryu Karate against my ChiDianBun KungFu......

    want to know the result?????

    ok, i am defeated.....

    why?????

    cause i cant deflect his heavy powerful kickings, (as heavy as the Earth Element)

    its a Karate versus kungfu and i am the looser......
    so you lost then
    so does that mean you do fake commercialized kung fu?
    does that mean that kung fu beats all?
    see sherwinc, you admited it yourself,
    each art has their weaknesess and each have their strengths, and this is why no art is better than another nor will an art ever be
    glad to hear you admit that

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    • #47
      Sherwinc didn't you say on some thread that if you ever lost you would give up martial Arts

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      • #48
        Originally posted by holyman
        Dear Brothers

        Why because they have become 'immortals' they have drunk he elixir of youth
        they have crossed the barriers of time and space and are peace with themselves.
        LOL, can I have some of that elixir.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Crabpuff
          Sherwinc didn't you say on some thread that if you ever lost you would give up martial Arts
          Hey, I remember him saying that! sherwinc stop doing martial arts now!

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          • #50
            Mmmmmmm.....crabpuffs...ahhhhhhhllllhlhllhlhlh

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            • #51
              Quit mocking sherwinc, he knows what he's talking about. Chinese gung-fu has just about anything you can ask for: grappling, kicking, hand striking, finger striking, you name it, the repetoire of techniques is far higher than anything in the western world.

              Why aren't there any gung-fu practitioners owning people in the UFC? Face it. The easterners think the westerners are pathetic. In China, respect is highly regarded. Chinese culture is just plain different than other cultures, and that is why they don't bother traveling overseas to fight in some dumb competition.

              As a practitioner of Xing Yi Ch'uan, I can attest that gung fu has great strength. However, you are correct that some styles of gung fu are not effective against other martial arts (street fighters and novice brawlers are another thing, however). Eagle claw can be easily defeated by Xing Yi. Why? The creator of Xing Yi (a chinese general) also created the Eagle Claw style, but he taught Xing Yi to his officers in order for them to be superior.

              Then, monkey style. Ba'Gua's (another internal gung fu style) quick footwork can easily overcome the monkey style.

              Someone mentioned that a Wing Chun master would break his arm by blocking Tyson's punch. Now, that is just plain wrong. If you block a punch correctly you deflect it, not clash with the force. Also, you have to understand that boxers are not as well conditioned as you think. The only thing they are conditioned in is cardiovascular and muscular. Now a wing chunner's bones are probably far more conditioned than most boxers, since boxers don't really block punches.

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              • #52
                I agree with alexjitsu. Actually it depends where you hit him while you block, i mean where you hit him the arm (ex. joints). It can weaken the punch that way. That's kung fu.

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                • #53
                  I believe wing chun has arm strengthening exercises like other kung fu which can enable them to block powerful punches like of tyson. Anyway Tyson will fight K-1 in july right? I hope he fights with Ray Sefo.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Mark-Masters
                    Right.... A Question...?

                    Mike Tyson, Once The Heavy Weight Champion Of The World And Yip Chun, Supposed Master Of Wing Chun Kung Fu.

                    Mike Tyson In His First Seconds Of The Fight Throws A Hook To Yip Chun's Head, Yip Chun Throws Out A Tan Sau, To Block Or Deflect, Now Saying Yip Chun Is In His 70's Maybe 80's I'm Not Sure, I'd Like To See Him Stop Tyson.

                    Firstly, I Think Yip Chun's Arm Would Break From The Raw Power Of Tyson, And Secondly I Could Imagine His Skull Being Broken From The Hook Hitting His Head, And Finally, Crying Like A Sissy After Mike Bites His Ears Off.

                    Anyone Disagree?

                    Mark-Masters.
                    Yipman has a good straight punch like of Lenox Lewis. Have you seen Lenox and Tyson fought? If you mean the master in his old times? Then who knows, but if you are talking about him during his younger times i believe Tyson will lost why? Because he wasn't even born yet. Comparing people with a huge gap and no means to prove is worthless.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by m.artist
                      so you lost then
                      so does that mean you do fake commercialized kung fu?
                      does that mean that kung fu beats all?
                      see sherwinc, you admited it yourself,
                      each art has their weaknesess and each have their strengths, and this is why no art is better than another nor will an art ever be
                      glad to hear you admit that
                      he is my instructor in most of my high kicking techniques..... i convinced him to join to our KungFu Club and he will pretend to be begginer student......

                      he teach me high kicks, especially those two kicks, or three kicks in a one leg raise only....... the result is, most of my kungfu class mates could not easily intercept my kickings cause in kungfu - we are trained only hand combinations....... (yet we have lowkicks and high kicks too but mostly handcombinations)

                      i really know the weaknesses of ChiDianBun KungFu...... so i know how to deal with it.......

                      while my instructor in kickings( now a karate 1st degree blackbelt) while he is pretending that he is a begginer in the martial arts...... he study most of our ChiDianBun, AngKa, 5-Family TaiChi's and Go-ChoKun Trainings........ he is very unbeatable.......

                      for me, he is a 1st degree karate blackbelt from Marbel Mindanao who can defeat all of the 15 kungfu classmates i have......

                      the name of my instructor in kickings is carmelo...... he joins plenty of tournaments...... he uses TaiChi and AngKa KungFu in TaeKwonDo and Boxing Tournaments and the referree dont notice it....... most of his opponents 3times to fall down the ground but he only received Silver Medals..... i smell something fishy on that tournament......

                      as of now, my 1st degree karate blackbelt instructor (from defenders karate clan in marbel, mindanao) is a very serious in learning KungFu, especially those arts that i did not yet learn........

                      or.......

                      he has a Jeet Kune Do of his own interpretations.......

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by AlexJitsu
                        Why aren't there any gung-fu practitioners owning people in the UFC? Face it. The easterners think the westerners are pathetic. In China, respect is highly regarded. Chinese culture is just plain different than other cultures, and that is why they don't bother traveling overseas to fight in some dumb competition.
                        .
                        Actually Pride is just around the corner. And you are all WRONG Yellowbomboo is the most powerfull MA in the world. Just because they choose not to compete in NHB events does not mean they're not extremely powerfull.

                        A cousin of my sister's husband, said that his friend's friend, whos friend saw his teacher who is a 110 year old man fight 10 thai boxers at once. There was nothing left after he was done. There are so many stories like this, but don't ask me for proof, you just have to believe me.

                        And one time I drank the elixhir or Russian power, called Vodka. Man it made my chi come out, I could feel my self running so fast even though I was just stading there.

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                        • #57
                          I believe wing chun has arm strengthening exercises like other kung fu which can enable them to block powerful punches like of tyson.
                          Wing Chun has many arm strenghtening exercises, if one knows the proper use of the forms he can effectively reinforce arms-wrists-legs... Then there is wooden dummy practice, practicing the dummy will definetely reinforce your arms .

                          Actually it depends where you hit him while you block, i mean where you hit him the arm (ex. joints). It can weaken the punch that way. That's kung fu.
                          It can damage and even break the join if the arm is extended...

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Crabpuff
                            Sherwinc didn't you say on some thread that if you ever lost you would give up martial Arts
                            since i cant beat my private 1st degree Karate Instructor. He is 2.5 times bigger built compare to me........ i can simply say that techniques are useless if your opponents knows every category of art, especially if he is a kungfu addict yet a kickboxer, a taekwondo/karate and juijitsu, he also knows arnis de mano(lacquerdas)...... even thou he is a heavyweight category he can still execute his techniques extremely fast and rapid hand combinations like those of BruceLee, SamoHung......that's my instructor, he is also my classmates during college in Nautical Marine...... he always pretending that he is a novicebeginner in martial arts and enrolls on most of the martial arts school here in Iloilo. His aim is to sparr most of the instructors here in Iloilo...... want to know the ratio of hits??????

                            I have two private instructors.......

                            1. a KungFu Instructor (from KongHan School and Phil. E-NEE School)

                            2. a 1st Degree BlackBelt from Defenders Karate Clan School in Marbel Mindanao. He knows Shorin-Ryu Karate, TaeKwonDo, AiKiDo, JuiJitsu, Boxing, KickBoxing, Saga-Sa, Wrestling, Arnis De Mano(Baston), and especially ChiDianBun, WingChun, 5-Family TaiChiChuan, AngKa, Go-Cho. I think he is a more than 20years of MartialArts Veteran.......

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                            • #59
                              Saga-Sa , Wrestling, Arnis De Mano(Baston), and especially ChiDianBun, WingChun, 5-Family TaiChiChuan, AngKa, Go-Cho.
                              Shervinc did your friend show you Saga-Sa? How does it look like?

                              Saga-Sa is the "kickboxing" system of Bakbakan International... I think there are elements of Ngo Cho Kun in this art as Alex Co taught NCK to this group...

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by krys
                                Shervinc did your friend show you Saga-Sa? How does it look like?

                                Saga-Sa is the "kickboxing" system of Bakbakan International... I think there are elements of Ngo Cho Kun in this art as Alex Co taught NCK to this group...
                                i am not sure...... the Saga-Sa that i mean is a type of BOXING who use rapid Leopard Knuckles attacks instead of ClosedFists......

                                in the field of Boxing, Leopard Knuckles are more faster compare to closedfists, and it really works........ he learned that art in one of his old instructor in South Cotabato, Mindanao.

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