Trapping?

[sikal]

Well of course you'd clear, because one can't trap a good fighter's arms.


I would rather neck crank than throw to move on to another opponent in a multiple attacker scenario.....last thing I want is the guy to get back up after the throw. You can still use a limp body to shield for a short time.

But clearing is a type of trapping, too - at least in the way I look at trapping. It's just obstacle removal. If I grab a guy in a bear hug and headbutt him, then I successfully trapped him. If I move an arm out of the way and it can't get back into the action before I land my shot then it's successfully trapped - even if I'm not touching his arm (i.e.: I cleared it).

As far as neck crank vs. throw - depends on the situation which will be the better option. But if I throw him into one of his buddies, I've temporarily taken two guys out of the fight which may be enough for me to run or buy me enough time to do something more permanent to another attacker or to get my hands on a weapon.

Mike

[sherwinc]

correct. Like I've said in other threads, it is nearly impossible to trap a boxer's punches. Trapping is overrated.

i too agree with it cause i already spar with lots of boxers...

but due to 2nd law of wingchun:
He who Withdraws - FOLLOW

after meeting my bridge to boxers bridge, while the boxers withdraws his attacking arms, i too then quickly follow it but my followed fist landed immediately unto boxers face, and since boxers are human dummies, it immediately hit, and follow up with enormous amount of kungfu combinations......

another form of 2:22 hit ratios......

[Mr. Gordo]

But clearing is a type of trapping, too - at least in the way I look at trapping. It's just obstacle removal. If I grab a guy in a bear hug and headbutt him, then I successfully trapped him. If I move an arm out of the way and it can't get back into the action before I land my shot then it's successfully trapped - even if I'm not touching his arm (i.e.: I cleared it).

I define trapping as anytime both of the opponents hands are temporarily immobilized. If the move is a simple pak da on the bridge of a right punch, but the left hand of the opponent is free, then that is not trapping.....doesn't mean it's a bad technique, it just doesn't fit the criteria of having both hands trapped. If it's just one had, then it's like a filipino one hand on/one hand off zone out which is great stuff (and is also found in Wing Chun), but it's not really trapping which is a core idea in Wing Chun.

i too agree with it cause i already spar with lots of boxers...

but due to 2nd law of wingchun:
He who Withdraws - FOLLOW

after meeting my bridge to boxers bridge, while the boxers withdraws his attacking arms, i too then quickly follow it but my followed fist landed immediately unto boxers face, and since boxers are human dummies, it immediately hit

Ahhh....a smart Wing Chun player that knows the limitations of his system and avoids trapping. I respect that. Shoot forward when the hand is free.

[sherwinc]

Shoot forward when the hand is free.

That's the WingChun's Third Law:

Loosing of a Hand Contact - RUSH-IN

and dont stop forcefull rapid punching until the opponent kisses the ground....

[darrianation]

i too agree with it cause i already spar with lots of boxers...

but due to 2nd law of wingchun:
He who Withdraws - FOLLOW

after meeting my bridge to boxers bridge, while the boxers withdraws his attacking arms, i too then quickly follow it but my followed fist landed immediately unto boxers face, and since boxers are human dummies, it immediately hit, and follow up with enormous amount of kungfu combinations......

another form of 2:22 hit ratios......

Boxing retards and children don't count.

[Mr. Gordo]

Boxing retards and children don't count.

I've been lucky to have the opportunity to spar with some very good boxer's here in Brooklyn's Gleason's Gym. Very tough, and great learning experience.