Kungfu is fake

[MAfans]

''Many traditional arts aren't designed to handle a aggressive puncher. Most traditionalists try to adapt their techniques to work against punching, but when these basic techniques were invented, western style punching, with its combos and angles of punching, wasn't around.''

Are u saying that kung-fu cant match against boxing?

[Broadsword2004]

Uhhhh, jubaji, they did this thing called importing, same as Rome did with tigers and lions as well. Learn your facts.

[jubaji]

Uhhhh, jubaji, they did this thing called importing, same as Rome did with tigers and lions as well. Learn your facts.

So, the hermit kingdom imported lions "all the time" just for this research? You are completely full of it kid.

[Jeremy Lobdell]

No

No MA fan, I'm not making any specifics statements about which art is better between kung-fu or boxing. I'm saying (for the 2nd time) that western style boxing wasn't around when kung-fu was first being developed. Therefore, kung-fu techniques weren't origionally designed to defend against an aggressive puncher. As far as who would win in a fight, it depends on the skill of the fighters.

[koto_ryu]

Back to the original post.....

I really had my heart set on kungfu I spent years studying the various animal styles. Then one night some kind came up to me and pulled a knife.

Then I thought, I wasted my time spirituallity. My kungfu teach never explained how to defend against this kid who drew a knife on me.

What aload of rubbish kungfu is. Chi is fake. Thai Bri was right alll along.

You kungfu guys should NOT waste time on your fake forms. Learn real fighting stuff not mythical crounching tiger hidden dragon stuff.

How does s kungfu guy deal with knife threat, gun threat ? a thug intent on killng u ? jesuzzzzzzz christ

Ever hear of chin na? Chin na is one of the few aspects of Chinese martial arts I really enjoy as to be quite honest a lot of it is just plain mean. They have some very damaging locks and holds, and good defenses against weapons. Against multiple attackers it's far from the first thing you'd want to know, but in a one-on-one situation you'll definitely have an extreme advantage. A lot of the techniques are fairly easy to learn too once you have knowledge of the basics of joints and how they move, and have a decent background in grappling and small-joint manipulation.

Admittedly all I have is several books on the subject, but my friends and I often work on techniques from those books and when we have the time do stress training with those and other aspects of martial techniques (we don't wear the huge weird-looking head either, just regular headgear).

[Shaolinkfman]

Jubaji, do you know anything at all? Broadsword has brought up some good points and you seem to have a huge lack of knowledge on them and martial arts. Please do some sort of research before you put another pitiful, contemptible comment on any of the message boards on this site.

[jubaji]

good points?!

Jubaji, do you know anything at all? Broadsword has brought up some good points and you seem to have a huge lack of knowledge on them and martial arts. Please do some sort of research before you put another pitiful, contemptible comment on any of the message boards on this site.

Hey! Thanks for the good advice! After you shove it up your ass you should review it and consider revising.

[Shaolinkfman]

Hey! Thanks for the good advice! After you shove it up your ass you should review it and consider revising.

See, this is the kind of crap that doesn't need to be put on the message boards. I have already sent an administrative complaint against you that will probably warn\ban you so stop putting bad messages up or you'll only help my case.

[jubaji]

See, this is the kind of crap that doesn't need to be put on the message boards. I have already sent an administrative complaint against you that will probably warn\ban you so stop putting bad messages up or you'll only help my case.

That is terrific. You are a real crusader. Thank you.

[eXcessiveForce]

MOD:


Please try to get along, remember everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Stay on topic and try to be civil to eachother.

Thanks,

ExcessiveForce

[jubaji]

MOD:


Please try to get along, remember everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Stay on topic and try to be civil to eachother.

Thanks,

ExcessiveForce

I regret to say that that was so well put that I have no smart-ass comment to add.

[Broadsword2004]

So, the hermit kingdom imported lions "all the time" just for this research? You are completely full of it kid.

Jeez man, people pit animals against each other for fights, same as they have dog fighting, the Koreans pitted lions against tigers (importing them both). The Mexicans used to pit grizzly bears they brought in against bulls, then they pitted a male lion aganst the bear because the bulls lost so much (the lion severely lost to the bear too; there aren't too many mammals that can bring down a grizzly). This is mainly because the grizzly weighs about 400-500 pounds more then the lion, and a cat has light, hollow bones, whereas a grizzly has heavy, thick bones, so the lion never stood a chance really. The grizzly killed it with one swipe. The lion was known for charging bravely out at the bear, as it was the most ferocious lion they could find, however.

What happened though was the same with the tiger and the lion. People stopped betting on the tiger because it lost so much, so the Koreans decided to search the globe for a better tiger (or at least a better cat) that could match the lion. They found this in the Bengal tiger, which they said had a ferociousness in it that was truly frightening in comparison to the standard tigers they were using. So they brought in the Bengal.

Animal fighting is nothing new though man; of course they researched these things, money rode on them. That was also part of the fun of the gambling to it.

[jubaji]

the Koreans pitted lions against tigers (importing them both). .

Kid, you are so full of shit it's coming out your ears!

[Broadsword2004]

jubaji, you mind telling me WHY that is all baloney?? All you have done is say I am full of it, yet have given nothing refutable. You seem to already realize you've made an idiot of yourself in front of most everyone, you just don't really know what to do about it now.

Facts are facts. Get yours straight man.

[Broadsword2004]

http://www.lairweb.org.nz/tiger/conflict5.html

check here