Best Kung Fu style

[Toudiyama[NL]]

^^ I agree. Buddhism is a Japanese philosophy, whereas Taoism is a Chinese one. Big difference between the two.

ROTFLMAO, you must be joking Both can be found in both countries

/Why do you think a lot of MA have Do at the end? which is Tao in Chinese

[Infinite1]

Buddhism started in India and then Chinese adopted it as well as Taoism. THe beliefs are followed in this order Taoism, Confusionism, Buddhism...Japanese did adopt buddhism as well but it's not a Japanese philosophy.

[Oraenor]

Maybe you are very true about it......

why?????

cause i really confused why our ChiDianBun KungFu is considered to be a Taoist Based KungFu eventhou it is a Short-distance Scientific kungfu...... still considered to be a kungfu from the Northern part of China......

taoist kung fu doesnt mean its from the south, infact the whole north/ south kung fu style thing is just a generalisation based upon shaolin styles. Look at hsing I, its from the north but fights primarily with fists, thats just an example.

[Tameo]

All the threads seem to go off topic.

[Infinite1]

Yeah Tameo you're right they always go off topic....HAHAHAHA!!!

[HuSanYan]

studiobuddy, I havent noticed anyone mentioning san soo very often on these boards, note san soo not san shou
I have just started to look into this potentially very seriously effective MA, apparently it has some very nasty, get this, 'non stylish' and brutal moves to do with straight forward techniques directly applied to the pressure points and weak points of the body, which, apparently is taught in depth. There are NO forms in this style (correct me if I am wrong) and there are NO flowery "Pecking Crow Beak" or "Screeching Rooster" garbage moves either.

I believe the guy who started/developed this style is called Jimmy Woo, this guy was based in California I think.
I am trying to find out if there is anyone in the useless UK that might teach this realistic, down to earth, proper self defense/attack style.
It seems that you can find every style in the US but here in the UK, its just useless, i hate it.
studio, check it out, do a search under 'san soo kung fu'....

[Infinite1]

Hey Hu,

I checked out that San Soo stuff...I'm not sure though....I've never heard of any Kung Fu practitioner wearing karate gi's or had a belt system. Maybe it was just the school here in Texas. I dunno the school reminds me of this fraud school that we had that combined 6 styles to one...Or it could even have Korean origins??? What's your input on my find...Thanks!

[HuSanYan]

hi infinite,
well I didnt see that one about the gi, i also didnt see the school/club that you mention in TX, i saw a couple of schools that were based in California, I will do a search again and come back to you.
I went more into the actual syllabus part of it.
do you have a link to the site that you refer to??

[Oraenor]

It's best not to boast about which style is the best but rather which instructor that teaches the style is one of the best.

[HuSanYan]

I think that re infinites point above, that if they wear the Karate Gi's then it sounds like a Karate type of guy from the seventies that may have learnt something else, trying to "Japanese it up", which sounds very fake as there also shouldn't be any belt system in a CMA, that i know of.
There is so much fake stuff around it makes you sick.

[Infinite1]

Hey Hu,

Here's that link i was looking at. http://home1.gte.net/lockwood/. Yeah i found it kinda suprising that they had belts. Oh well go fig....Let me know what you think

[Studiobuddy]

That's funny, its not a sport

From what i've seen it's considered a sport too

[Shaolinkfman]

About the karate GI, look at the website below. This is what I do now and it has adapted the japanese rank system with minor changes. Here is an explanation.

"Recently while "surfing" through a message board I ran across a posting questioning why the students in Lexington continue to wear gi's.

The answer is a simple one. It is to honor the tradition that was started by Grandmaster Ie Chang Ming. Grandmaster Ie used the Japanese gi's and belt system to disguise Shao-Lin away from the government officials in Indonesia. The government had outlawed all Chinese martial arts.

Grandmaster Ie was a man of great foresight; he realized that if the art was to continue to survive it needed to be "hidden" from the authorities, while still practicing right under their noses. So he made the decision to go away from the normal practice attire and started using the Japanese gi. To further more confuse the authorities he also implemented a belt system, again along the lines of the Japanese martial arts. The name was changed to Shao-Lin Do. When the authorities came by the school to visit, they saw a Chinese art being practiced, but using a Japanese name, uniform and belt system which left them with the impression that it was a Japanese art form."

https://www.shaolin-do.com

[ihearkfss]

studiobuddy, I havent noticed anyone mentioning san soo very often on these boards, note san soo not san shou
I have just started to look into this potentially very seriously effective MA, apparently it has some very nasty, get this, 'non stylish' and brutal moves to do with straight forward techniques directly applied to the pressure points and weak points of the body, which, apparently is taught in depth. There are NO forms in this style (correct me if I am wrong) and there are NO flowery "Pecking Crow Beak" or "Screeching Rooster" garbage moves either.

I believe the guy who started/developed this style is called Jimmy Woo, this guy was based in California I think.
I am trying to find out if there is anyone in the useless UK that might teach this realistic, down to earth, proper self defense/attack style.
It seems that you can find every style in the US but here in the UK, its just useless, i hate it.
studio, check it out, do a search under 'san soo kung fu'....

I do kfss, so I'll do my best to shed some light on this.
First off, there *are* forms in kfss- they're all (as I understand it) hand forms, which can then be translated into weapons forms.
You are correct about there not being any flowery weird moves like parting the horse's mane or w/e.
KFSS is a very serious art that is exclusively for self defense, and is very brutal, etc. It's a very diverse art, and typically wins in real self defense situations. It has joint locks, takedowns of all sorts, attacks, all kinds of strikes, body manipulations- if you want to genuinely fight and fight effectively in any number of situations and against all sorts of martial arts, then kung fu san soo is the way to go.

[gong fu]

there is no "best" gong fu style, the basics are the best, the fundimentals, drills/forms/stances/conditioning/stretching/running/stone lock training/
the actual combat style/moves come secondary to the training of the overall weapon (yourself).



peace