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**Tom Yum** · 01-02-2005, 07:41 PM

How about Taebo?

Advantages:

1. You can 'feel' more confident.
2. You can do it in the privacy of your own home.
3. No need to actually step into a gym, get sweaty or worry about getting hit or choked.
4. Its the quick, easy answer to all of your problems

No longer do you have to work with your classmates or bust your butt!

**Lord Sesshomaru** · 01-02-2005, 08:47 PM

lol good answer, but im really looking to pick the best one between them 2 i showed

**Deamonwolfmoon** · 01-23-2005, 03:51 PM

Hello my name is Damion.

Sesshomaru forgive me for this question but why do you have two links to the same school. I can only suggest the one school if I know nothing of the other. So if you would like my thoughts on this subject then please write me back with info about the other school.
Thank you
Deamonwolfmoon.

**Hardball** · 01-23-2005, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Lord Sesshomaru

hey guys, i really need your experience to make a really difficult choice.....
you see, i was a brown belt in Shotokan a few years ago and i quit because the art really did not "capture me"...it did not intrigue me(and other problems), and to me that is as important as learning how to defend yourself. now i made a choice to start martial arts again after a few years.....i have researched alot online and it came down to 2 schools in my area(NYC)...they are

Wing chun Kung fu school = http://www.wingchunnyc.com/

Grandmaster Lee's Chinese Kung Fu Wu Su Association=

http://www.wingchunnyc.com/

I want a MA that captures the feel of the chinese mythology...not only learning how to defend myself(i can do that preety good already) but i want a complete MA, meaning phylosophy, offense, defense, ideology, etc...i want a Chinese MA that requires skills, and it difficulty level does not matter.... dont get me wrong, i want the best in self defense but i want da one which is more "Complete" all around.no matter how much time and dedication i need to be great, it doesnt matta... so guys can you PLLLLLLLLEEEAAASSEEEE help me???!!!! pros, cons, whatever may help, because im about to sign up this week and i need to make a choice based on expert opinion(you guys), so basically i need you guys to tell me which MA is better as a "whole" system...sorry if i sound confusing.....

PS. can you guys please check out the links i gave you to compare or whatever to help me make a decision....

thank you any help is appreciated!!!!

Sorry buddy you aren't going to like what I'm about to say but it is tough love.

You should have stuck with shotokan; got your black belt and then ventured out to cross training. You are a Brown Belt and that was sooo close to Black. That's what most people recommend. Get a black belt in any style; then cross train and experiment with other styles.

**TiamPiu** · 02-01-2005, 10:27 AM

I have to agree with Hardball 100%. I too quit Shotokan years ago for the exact same reasons, it felt a little empty for me, just too much of doing forms and techniques hitting the air instead of practicing real fighting, and the lack of philosophy, weapons instructions, ground fighting ... etc.

Anyway, I left at green belt and went on to Chinese MA, Muay Thai and other arts, studied each for years. Once I got into these I realized that they all lived up to what I was missing in Shotokan, yet missing what Shotokan was giving me. After I've done it all, I wanted to go back and get my black belt in Shotokan because I realized the others can't give me what Shotokan (or other Japanese styles) can.

Also hate to tell you but many traditional arts - including the Chinese MAs - brag a lot more than what they can show for. I've seen way too many real fights where these traditional artists were beaten very very badly, countless Thai boxers challanged by kung-fu and karate practitioners but by almost all cases were extremely easily defeated. Or there is grand-grand-grand master William Cheung who went to Germany for a demo, challenged everyone in a magazine saying he will beat anyone, once the demo started a relatively unkown Wing Chun practitioner from Turkey walked up to the stage, held up the magazine to the crowd and said he accepts the challenge. The fight began and 'grand-grand-grand' master William Cheung was sniffing the dust on the stage before you blinked your eyes.

Don't rely on myths, just what you experience and what is already proven. By all means get your black belt first then cross train - or do both the same time if your time allows, nothing wrong with that - but then you wont regret quitting so close to accomplishing a great goal in your life.

**koto_ryu** · 02-01-2005, 11:52 AM

I think wing chun will suit more of what you're looking for.

**fanman.** · 02-02-2005, 02:38 AM

Try out both of them and see which one you like best.

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