From Wing Tsun to Wing Chun

[gabbah]

I would have thought wing tsun and wing chun don't differ that much. What is the differance?

[Tee Sok]

I would have thought wing tsun and wing chun don't differ that much. What is the differance?

Politics. And money.
Technically, just a few variations.

[gabbah]

Politics. And money.
Technically, just a few variations.

I was asking because litteDemon and Tameo seem to think they differ quite a bit... littleDemon says she trains the REAL wing chun now, so it seems she means technically.

[SwissPrecision]

In short, the main diference between WT and WC is footwork and in WC chi-sao is more rigid. WT is considered 'softer' than WC.

[Thai Bri]

But they have similarities. One of the main ones being that student from one particular variation will claim that it is the best thing ever. Ever ever ever.

Then they will find out what a load of tripe it is, switch to another variation, and then say THAT is the best thisn ever. Ever ever ever.

And none of them could hang with a BVJJ Blue Belt or an amateur boxer with three months training.......

[LittleDemon]

Whatever that - way i see it anything has got to be better then WING TSUN!!! besides I love martial arts in general just because i CHOOSE to study wing chun because I am more familiar with the style of kung fu does not mean I see it as the cats meow!!!!


THERE IS NO ONE TRUE STYLE ONLY ONE TRUE WORRIOR!!!!

SO THICK BRI ID HOLD YOUR TONGUE A WHILE!

[SwissPrecision]

@Thai Bri: From what I read in all your posts, I conclud you have an obsesion with bashing WC/WT. If you consider this to be true, go seek a psychiatrist. Ok, I know WC and WT have McDojo problems, but that's no reasone to bash an art, in fact this is the shortest way for you to become a migty 'keybord warrior'. In fact what are you trying to convince us: that WC/WT is week ? Just learn to respect others; shuffering your opinions the way you do, sayes a lot about respect. Get used to the fact that we all have diffrent opinions and stop trying to change everything your way. I don't what this post to summon the 'Internet warrior' in you; I did not want to offend you, just read this and think about it.
Btw, I agree that most WT/WC don't have a chance agains a 'normal' boxer [this is way my WT training has more of a boxer's attitude], but this is NOT because the system is week. It's because they don't train the way they should, but as I sayed everyone is responseble for there and only there training. POINT.

[Tameo]

Politics. And money.
Technically, just a few variations.

Techniques have little to do with actual fighting. You may know 1000 techniques but not be able to fight. Fighting is all about using your whole body effectively with each movement,techniques are just a tool to use.

[phenom]

using your whole body effectively with each movement is good technique?

[Thai Bri]

@Thai Bri: From what I read in all your posts, I conclud you have an obsesion with bashing WC/WT. If you consider this to be true, go seek a psychiatrist. Ok, I know WC and WT have McDojo problems, but that's no reasone to bash an art, in fact this is the shortest way for you to become a migty 'keybord warrior'. In fact what are you trying to convince us: that WC/WT is week ? Just learn to respect others; shuffering your opinions the way you do, sayes a lot about respect. Get used to the fact that we all have diffrent opinions and stop trying to change everything your way. I don't what this post to summon the 'Internet warrior' in you; I did not want to offend you, just read this and think about it.
Btw, I agree that most WT/WC don't have a chance agains a 'normal' boxer [this is way my WT training has more of a boxer's attitude], but this is NOT because the system is week. It's because they don't train the way they should, but as I sayed everyone is responseble for there and only there training. POINT.

Please don't write anything on the forum. If someone disagrees with you they'll think you are bashing them.

[Tameo]

using your whole body effectively with each movement is good technique?

yes because no matter how fast you perform techniques if you have nothing behind them then it doesnt work. I remember someone giving this example; you throw a bat at someone and it hits him in the chest. That could hurt but it would hurt alot more if you took that bat and swing it at the person hitting him in the same spot with alot more force. Same goes for techniques. You may know thousands of techniques that dont mean anything because the energy you give is completely wrong and there is nothing behind them.

[gabbah]

yes because no matter how fast you perform techniques if you have nothing behind them then it doesnt work. I remember someone giving this example; you throw a bat at someone and it hits him in the chest. That could hurt but it would hurt alot more if you took that bat and swing it at the person hitting him in the same spot with alot more force. Same goes for techniques. You may know thousands of techniques that dont mean anything because the energy you give is completely wrong and there is nothing behind them.

But isn't it true that most wing *un techniques have nothing behind them? Kicks and punches for instance?

[phenom]

not true at all we use hip and shoulder in punches and have adapted a southern shaolin style power kicking technique other wing chun not sure

[Tameo]

But isn't it true that most wing *un techniques have nothing behind them? Kicks and punches for instance?

yea its true like 99% of them dont understand body structure.

[gabbah]

not true at all we use hip and shoulder in punches and have adapted a southern shaolin style power kicking technique other wing chun not sure

So can you still chain punch? If yes, it must be slower than traditional wing chun chain punching in that case? Slower but harder.