Tiger Claw

[hEmPY]

I need some good websites on Tiger Claw Kung Fu (Fu Jow Pai), that art where people scratchin and face grabbin, like at the Bullo Young movie.

Any site w/ technix, videos, history goes. I wanna know how do they train fingers, etc.

Any Fu Jow Pai xperts?

[NickL]

Training the fingers involves thrusting your fingers into buckets of sand, pebbles, or rocks and striking a bag filled with sand, beans, or iron pellets. Other methods are gripping the tops of jars filled with various substances and holding them for long periods of time. Another method is to grip the end of a sawed log and hold it for a long time. Still another method is tearing the bark from trees with your bare fingers. THere is also your basic spring hand grips. There is also dynamic tension exercises for the hands that are seen in some forms. Some of these methods can cause permenant nerve damage to your hands and striking objects with your finger tips can lead to serious health problems. Have fun hEmPy.

[SimonM]

I need some good websites on Tiger Claw Kung Fu (Fu Jow Pai), that art where people scratchin and face grabbin, like at the Bullo Young movie.

Any site w/ technix, videos, history goes. I wanna know how do they train fingers, etc.

Any Fu Jow Pai xperts?

Forget the DAMN Bolo Yeung movies. They are not about real tiger-style fighting, they are MOVIES made for the ENTERTAINMENT of the mostly NON-MARTIAL ARTIST population of North America. I like Bolo, he is a decent martial arts movie villain actor but that doesn't mean you can learn to rip through a man's skin with your bare hands just because you saw Bolo to it to Jalal Merhi in "Tiger Claws".

The fu jow hand formation has two purposes. You can strike (with the palm) or sieze (with the whole hand). It can be used to lead into joint locks and throws when you sieze but not to rip out throats and score chests with oh-so stylish bloody lines.

Also learning techniques (it's not spelled technix, please stop torturing the english language) over the internet is a mugs game. You want to learn Tiger Style kung fu? Find a school that teaches Hung Gar or Shaolin Five Animal and you will get tuition in it. Just don't pull an Uma Thurman and think that it's a bunch of catty little scratching motions.

My sifu has a name for that method of tiger style practice:

"Sick Kitten".

[hEmPY]

Actually, Im thinkin of tiger claw throat grab. With strong fingers it may stun or even win you some seconds, huh?

Watch the tiger claw technique

[Dim Wit Moc]

Try www.tigerclaw.ca I like their videos a lot.

[hEmPY]

Try www.tigerclaw.ca I like their videos a lot.

Good site.

Since u have their videos, tell me, if the face grabs and throat grabs are popular at their school?

[Dim Wit Moc]

Face and throat rips are part of any tiger system including this one. They need to be taught and learned, but used only extreme circumstances because they are so violent. In the animal systems "grabs" are done more in the spirit of the dragon and eagle. I use the dragon claw and eagle claw for grabs. By all means have violent tiger claw rips at your disposal, but don't have this as your only tool. You don't want a twelve gauge shotgun as your only option in dealing with flies. You can swat them with a flyswatter. Learn some kenpo or jujitsu in addition to tiger claw. Don't get me wrong. I love tiger claw, but I wanted to learn how the other animals could contribute to self defense situations. If you want tiger claw only, it is a great system, but very aggressive and violent. Many situations don't call for this level of violence. In all fairness, tiger claw does teach more than just "nuke em" techniques.

[IBOPM]

I feel that grabs at the throat/neck in general are great. USUALLY (depending on certain circumstances) you are pretty much winning when you have their neck.

[SimonM]

I feel that grabs at the throat/neck in general are great. USUALLY (depending on certain circumstances) you are pretty much winning when you have their neck.

That depends on how you have their neck. Unfortunately a foreward, one handed grab (taught in many "tiger claw" forms) is a very poor one. One would be wiser to strike the throat rapidly and then retract before you get your arm locked.

[Dim Wit Moc]

I never learned any tiger claw "grabs". You go in and rip for the reason just mentioned. In five animal we do a very violent eagle claw grab to the throat which does great damage and is then quickly released.

[Tom Yum]

Hey, you're back.

Welcome back, DWM!

[Dim Wit Moc]

Thanks Tom. There is an ebb and flow in my enthusiasm for forum stuff. To be honest, sometimes I click on the old DefendNet bookmark just to read what you have to say because I have always respected you and your insights.

[bbbb]

!Yeh..

I never learned any tiger claw "grabs". You go in and rip for the reason just mentioned. In five animal we do a very violent eagle claw grab to the throat which does great damage and is then quickly released.

You even swoop!!

[Tant01]

. I wanna know how do they train fingers, etc.

Any Fu Jow Pai xperts?

Not me. From time to time I like to mention rock climbing as a method for "conditioning" the hands and fingers. (not to mention dealing with fear and adrenalin...)

It takes some time but not as long as you might think and your strength will grow too. Indoor rock climbing places are growing in popularity.

Just a thought.