Chinese MAs in Real Life?

[polecat63]

I don't blame you for being upset at having your BS questioned, but don't get too emotional.


Now, if you have any specific question I'll be glad to consider it.

I already have. Do you fight in the ring? What art, if any, do you study? So far your keyboard fu has been less than impressive. Please don't PM me and tell me how mean I am, or how I started this or cuss at me like you did the last time. Just answer the questions

I , and others have askeg these questions before and you always resort to attacking instead of answering. It's called redirection and is usually employed to cover something up. So, when you answer those question I'll 'consider' if I should acknowledge your existence.

Again, the topic is 'Chinese MA's in real life'. So, regale us with your indepth knowledge of CMA's and how they do, or do not, relate to 'real' life. Otherwise just get a 'real' life.

Please, don't cry. I hate it when I make children cry.

[47MartialMan]

I think any martial art, if practiced hard core as realistic as possible, could be used in street confrontations.

However, I also believe that versitility is the key.

[jubaji]

something...

Originally Posted by jubaji
How do you know? Have you beaten the crap out of many ring fighters out in 'the street'?

Yes, I have.

Just starting in MA at the age of 41. Been taking a class on self defense from my sons karate teacher. He asked me if I would be his deciple in Xing Yi. I'm looking forward to learning from him..

And then you proceed to tell us the exciting stories of when you twice about broke even and twice got your ass kicked. Stories which reeked of BS anyway.


Hhhmmmmmmmm

[jubaji]

If you are ever in the area I'd be happy to have a friendly little spar with you and show you what my art looks like. Until then I guess I'll just have to deal with those stinging retorts you keep throwing out. I'm going to go cry now.

I don't blame you for being upset at having your BS questioned, but don't get too emotional.


Now, if you have any specific question I'll be glad to consider it.

[IPON]

I hate bouncers...you bastards keep me from my alchohol!

THAT'S JUST MEAN!!!!!!!

And to think the next drink was going to be on the house

[Garland]

JKD? Where did you study?

Also...you've trained some ground.
And why is it that every other person on this forum is a goddamned bouncer?
I hate bouncers...you bastards keep me from my alchohol!

[polecat63]

The problem is just not with CMA but all modern MA in general.

The MA where about just not only survival but also had other positive attributes.

To day they are a commercial venture that reproduces incompetent black belts, a dime a dozen.

What Mix Martial Art brought to the table was a make up call to some and a excuse for others to carry on the present marketing of the MA.

Mix MA is still a game. The question to ask is what can we do to revitalize the arts or let all the 10th degree before I am 45 years old, creators of my own system, like to open a school under me ass holes take over a drive the MA in to the ground.

Very well said, MADDOG

[polecat63]

Polecat, what CMA do you study?

And could you briefly describe one or two of your streetfights here?

I'm curious about the how the encounter played out and how you were able to utilize your CMA training. Did the guys you fought have any MA training?

I study Xing Yi. Honestly, the first two fights were before I started Xing Yi. I had studied BJJ, wrestling ( the collegiate type) and JKD. The peeps I fought all claimed to have martial arts training, and two had competed at some level, although nothing professional I'm sure. The first two were encounters that occurred while a doorman at an afterhours club. Although I had many such encounters while working this job, there were only two that the guys not only 'claimed' to have martial training, but it also appeared that they actually had trained.

Both got embarrassed in front of their friends because they could not enter the club, as it was private. They got all pumped up and threatening at which point they proclaimed there training and expertise (both claimed Karate). They actually kept me busy and at bay for a few minutes with some long range kicks, but once they got cocky and steped in I took over. The first I traped in an arm bar and took him down. Once I convinced him I would actually break his arm he gave up and left.

The second guy must have had some push hands training (either tai chi or maybe wing chun) I couldn't trap his arm for anything (the owners frowned upon us causing bloodshed). It wasn't until I started Xing Yi that I found out why. As a last resort I started thowing elbows to try and end it quickly. I caught him in the sternum and the back of the head. That calmed him down.

The first CMA street fight I had was after my sons Karate tournament. The father of one of the boys thought my son was a little rough with his son. He didn't yell at and threaten me, but my eleven year old son. That kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I told him to back off at which point he told me he "took" karate and would "whoop" my a double s if I didn't shut up. I told him to step off and got between him and my son. He got in a self defense stance and siad "come on". I told him I didn't want to hurt him and started to back away. He attacked so I hit him with about four or five palm strikes in the chest to back him up. He manged to kick me in the hip (which may have hurt him more than me) and clipped me right below the eye. He was pretty good, but he was angry and wild. He came at me again so I used fists this time, getting lower and drilling into his stomach and chest. He was going for my face which lead me to think he was used to using pads. He got me twice, one I deflected the other caught my cheek hurt like hell, he was done though. He may have broken his hand on my head. Someone said they had called the cops so we split.

The last time was when I was working the door for a friend. This guy was good. Better than me, much better. He was fast and strong, not as big as me, but pretty close. I stood my ground though and took more than a few lumps. The circular blocking I learned in both Xing Yi and Tai Chi kept me from serious injury I'm sure. I stayed close to him to keep him from kicking me, another Xing Yi strategy. It also allowed me to keep him off me until the other doormen arrived to help. They're both purple belts in BJJ and took him down quickly. I guess that one was a draw, but only 'cause I had help.

[Dom Shakal]

So far, four. That doesn't include several full contact matches with pads, but you did say "street" fights.

Polecat, what CMA do you study?

And could you briefly describe one or two of your streetfights here?

I'm curious about the how the encounter played out and how you were able to utilize your CMA training. Did the guys you fought have any MA training?

[MADDOG]

The problem is just not with CMA but all modern MA in general.

The MA where about just not only survival but also had other positive attributes.

To day they are a commercial venture that reproduces incompetent black belts, a dime a dozen.

What Mix Martial Art brought to the table was a make up call to some and a excuse for others to carry on the present marketing of the MA.

Mix MA is still a game. The question to ask is what can we do to revitalize the arts or let all the 10th degree before I am 45 years old, creators of my own system, like to open a school under me ass holes take over a drive the MA in to the ground.

[polecat63]

I don't suppose you fight in the ring?

Interesting. Then why, in your initial post, did you write in such conditional terms as "probably" and "would"? Could you be trying to sell a load of BS here?

I'll take that as a "no". Maybe you would like to share your experience with us. Afterall you study....um...er.. well, isn't that funny.

If you are ever in the area I'd be happy to have a friendly little spar with you and show you what my art looks like. Until then I guess I'll just have to deal with those stinging retorts you keep throwing out. I'm going to go cry now.


The topic is "Chinese MA's in real life?". The assumption must be that you have none, or maybe you just don't want to share.

TTFN little buddy!

[jubaji]

bs detector at work

So far, four. That doesn't include several full contact matches with pads, but you did say "street" fights.

Interesting. Then why, in your initial post, did you write in such conditional terms as "probably" and "would"? Could you be trying to sell a load of BS here?
HHHHhhhhhhhmmmmmm...

[polecat63]

That's great. How many?

So far, four. That doesn't include several full contact matches with pads, but you did say "street" fights. I don't suppose you fight in the ring?

[Garland]

U using secret dim mak death touch moves...like the five finger chest explode?

Ever see fist of the northstar...yeah...that's what I do. Somebody messes with me, I touch them (with fists, not the michael jackson touch), they look confused for a minute, I say something tough like, "you already dead-foo"
and they explode.
EXPLODE yo.
Like that video of the whale they packed with dy-no-mite.

[Garland]

who would fight a ring?
seriously..that's pretty dumb.
I bet I could kick somebodies ass who tries to fight rings.
Do they cross train with hoola hoops??


DUR...I just kidding.
I Kiiiid I kiiiid.

now...yeah, so you've brought down many a "ring fighter", eh?
Boxers, kickboxers, muay thai guys, jj guys, submission guys, mma guys, who?

What do you train that's sooooo deadly that they'd never expect it? (eye gouges, throat chops, and groin grabs don't count...because EVERYBODY knows how to do that shit.)