Chinese MAs in Real Life?

[jubaji]

usotsuki

Yes, I have.

That's great. How many?

[polecat63]

How do you know? Have you beaten the crap out of many ring fighters out in 'the street'?

Yes, I have.

[jubaji]

In a ring with rules that take away half the skills I've learned I prolly wouldn't do well, but take that guy that trains to fight in the ring and remove those rules, well...That would alter things dramatically.
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How do you know? Have you beaten the crap out of many ring fighters out in 'the street'?

[polecat63]

You don't see a lot of this because Chinese martial artists as a general rule don't fight very well.

Huh? If you mean that they don't train to fight in the ring, you are most likely correct. If you mean that they don't know how to fight, I'd say you are very wrong. It all depends upon your goals. If your goal is to compete your 'style' will look more like kickboxing regardless of what style you learn.
Chinese martial arts are very effective and I've crossed hands with some practitioners that are very scary indeed (my Shifu included). In a ring with rules that take away half the skills I've learned I prolly wouldn't do well, but take that guy that trains to fight in the ring and remove those rules, well...That would alter things dramatically.
Since the thread is about CMA's in real life and not the ring I would say that in a real life situation my art would be very effective.

[Jab902]

On a simpler note, Sanshou or Sanda. It is chinese kickboxing based of traditonal chinese arts and it incorperates takedowns. Check out Cung Le in K1 he is the biggest name in sanshou. And check out the thread about Lei Tai.

[fwtaichi]

You don't see a lot of this because Chinese martial artists as a general rule don't fight very well. I have practiced the Chinese martial arts for over 18 years now and I can say that 95% of the practitioners do what they think they should be doing rather than attending to the situation at hand i.e. the fight. It's that way for any martial artist really. I've trounced a few mma guys who thought they were in a movie and not right where they should have been. I've seen good fighters who had studied Tae Kwon Do and I have seen really crappy fighters who studied BJJ for years.
Martial arts are games, they build skills, get our minds thinking options and whatnot but martial arts are not fighting. They are skills that can or cannot help us fight. When some dude gets in the ring and says I'm going to use White Crane the most likely outcome is dude is going to get trounced unless the other guy is using his "style."
To make an analogy: I get in the ring with a world heavyweight champion boxer. He is a champion, he knows how to fight. Me? I'm in the other corner with my jump rope and I start skipping rope while he pounds the ever loving crap out of me. This situation describes people who use their martial arts to fight instead of hitting, kicking, breaking, maiming the person in front of them. Fighting is easy. You fight. You beat each other until one of you goes down. Yes it's brutal but that's how it is.

[Dom Shakal]

Besides that humorous video clip that's been making its way around these message boards, has anyone out there ever seen CMA in action? Either in a MMA competition setting, or in real life?

I've watched dozens of the UFC and PRIDE videos and I've rarely seen anyone compete using any style of kung fu. I remember in one of the old UFCs a wing chun guy lost in about 30 seconds ... but that's all.

Just once I'd like to see this:

"John Smith, fighting out of San Francisco, California, with eight years of experience in the White Crane style of Kung fu, will be facing off against . . . "

Thoughts?