WTF...Wushu a possibility in the olympics

[Oraenor]

I know this post relates more to the CMA posts but this does have some relevance in this forum.
I dont know if you guys know this or not but China is pushing forward wushu as a sport in the olympics in 2008.To me wushu in the olympics is an insult as a TCMA as they will give us a bad reputation of unable to fight and as a general MA, I would think it's an insult too as China is pushing forward this concept as the ultimate art.
What do you guys think?

[SamuraiGuy]

Nah, cause the chinese have an unfair advantage.. does anyone hoenstly expect another country to beat china in a wushu competition?...

Thats like saying... err... lets have a ... ... ... ... uhh... shutup..

I dont know.. but its stupid cause its just handing medals to china.

[BoarSpear]

ya never know, the french might snag a coupla medals....ya gotta admit theyre pretty good at dancin around n actin tough

[npk9]

Well wu-shu is sport - much like figure skating. I think if people want it in the olypics - then so be it. They have so many other sports that people don't really give a damn about - as opposed to TCMA - I really don't think its too much of an insult. If anything people will really start to underestimate TCMA's ability - that doesn't effect us unless we're trying to make money by opening up school teaching TCMA.

[ddrive]

Wushu in the Olympics = Gymnastics

Nah, cause the chinese have an unfair advantage.. does anyone hoenstly expect another country to beat china in a wushu competition?

It can be done. In wushu competition, judges simply rate the various katas/forms that an individual performs. It's very similar to the gymnastic competitions that in the olympics.

[Oraenor]

It can be done. In wushu competition, judges simply rate the various katas/forms that an individual performs. It's very similar to the gymnastic competitions that in the olympics.

I'm not saying whether or not it can be done, I am commenting why it should contest to be in the olympics in the first place.TCMA can also be judged in form and in fights.

[npk9]

You're right - it can be judged and probably can be on the Olypics but TCMA masters can't get there A$$ out of there heads that they all need to work together to get things done. So much politics that it'll never work. I don't know how political Wushu judging is but if its a board full of Chinese judges - you might as well not have the competition and hand all the medals to China. Even on the local level TCMA judges favor there students!! I've seen it - for me and against me. That's just how it is on the advance forms level.

[danfaggella]

npk9 you like tcma and nbh? What kinds of kung fu have you worked in? how does it work in nhb?

[npk9]

npk9 you like tcma and nbh? What kinds of kung fu have you worked in? how does it work in nhb?

I've studied TCMA since 1992. I'm sorry I don't know what NBH is. I've studied shaolin kung-fu and have a number of forms in southern tiger and a couple in northern mantis. I would not dare call myself an authority on a specific style of TCMA but that I have had my fair share of competition on the national level - at least enough to know that I would much rather be in the ring at actually be out classed then leave my fate to an overweight self-indulging judge who states that his big A$$ gut is from years of developing his chi.

[danfaggella]

NHB=
no holds barred=
full-contact fighting and grappling

most TCMA fellows dont engage in too much full-contact, nevermind full-contact + grapple (like in the UFC). I know one kid who does 5 animal and he likes to spar, its very interesting to see his stuff come out, much different than boxing/muay thai.

im interested in knowing how TCMA works for you when you fight full-contact. also, do you include grappling in your matches?

:}

[npk9]

Well,

I personally have not done any NHB - I have done and currently doing San shou/San Da. which you could say is like muay thai w/take downs minus the kneeing depending on the competition. I would like to do NHB down the road but I have to be smart about it . TMCA for me when it comes to ring fighting doesn't translate too well. At least not the advance techniques. I cant eye jab - heck I can't even grab ppl's wrists because of the boxing gloves so all those techniques are out. So back to basic striking - hard endurance trainning and contact conditioning. The grappling (the little that I do) comes from taking jujitsu classes - and no I wouldn't even consider myself a novice at this point. I'm way too inexperienced. But stand up - I can apply a lot of basic moves but nothing spectacular that is a signature of TCMA.

[danfaggella]

well with gloves its hard, but i figure you would incorperate TCMA stances and combinations and "Style" in your san shou, i always thought san shou was all about chinese martial arts going at it with takedowns. You just switch to mt when its time to fight standup? thats kinda disapointed to me bacause i see so little TCMA in any kind of sparring nevermind contact competition.

[npk9]

Well some of the better fighters can actually do the take downs that are in TCMA. I actually find that to be the easiest out of all the techniques to employ. The cresent and circular kicks work very well for me which is not normal for MT. No solid stance work for these types of scenerios. But I'll tell you this though - even cross training in other arts - coming from a TCMA does give TCM artists different attributes not associated w/MT or BBJ. Its simply our traininig - NOW I'M NOT SAYING OUR TRAINING IS BETTER, but we focus on different things and that gives us an edge on certain techniques. unfortunately - its knowing how to utlize what you have is the real trick.

[danfaggella]

good to hear you pulled something from KF.

Also, yeah I know TCMA guys have takedowns, they have an old grappling art which is really cool, I wish i knew more about it besides it's name and some basic takedowns they employ.