Getting weaker, Or getting stronger?

[gong fu]

oraenor because your books are bullshit thats why, so shaolin iron fist conditioning dosent consist partly of nailing a small newspaper to a solid brick structure/wall and punching it repeatedly for as long as 1 hour at a time?. i think it does.

[gong fu]

i learn from the only real shaolin temple in europe, are you saying your book is right and the shaolin monks at the temple are wrong? oh ok then my mistake lol.

[blitz]

I've seen it on the discovery channel, they had an episode about shaolin kung fu and they showed some guy punching a newspaper nailed to a wall and in the end the wall was destroyed!

[blitz]

And to people who say punching rocks is bad, http://www.fightingmaster.com/masters/oyama/index.htm. Read this. I think if you do it without losing your mind and in steps you wont get the problems you guys stated.

[gong fu]

exactly its a gradual proccess you cant just start punching shit really hard lol, when you start it should be at a young age for one, but you can do it when your growing up still, start light dont push over your condition limits and they will improve as time goes by, and you must use dit da jow rub it into the area you condition you can make your own from basic herbs and alchohole look it up on google or something.


conditioning has great benefits if done correctly,
conditioning has horrible effects on your joints and bones if done incorrectly,

[BoarSpear]

Shaolin and i part ways over when you should start conditioning, i think you ought to be an adult before you begin any form of iron palm training...

[Tant01]

Shaolin and i part ways over when you should start conditioning, i think you ought to be an adult before you begin any form of iron palm training...

And when you're old you may wish you had not...

[gong fu]

i see benefits and drawbacks from bot starting young and starting as an adult, childrens undeveloped bones are risky to condition its true it can mess a child up but!, if its done correctly and subtle as a child you will progress further and be stronger than if you start late, but waiting fo the bones to mature is usually the safe bet with conditioning but i think to do it as a child correctly has its benefits aswell as waiting for the body to mature and develop.

[BoarSpear]

And when you're old you may wish you had not...

If you train with control and common sense instead of ego it isnt a problem, if you try to break the rocks youre hitting, you probably have rocks in your head as well.

[gong fu]

and with the whole conditioning subject, alot of schools and mcdojos like to break stuff dont they, rebreakable boards lol and shit with spacers, i dont do any of that, the only times ive broken bricks blocks or wood is when friends or people have waged money that i couldent, infront of a few people just casual fun breaking, but i dont break the things i condition on or even try to break them. one of the things i use to condition my forearms, palms, shoulders, and legs is this huge tree near where i live its an ancient thick barked old thing and i couldent possibly break that, when im conditioning my palm strikes on the tree i do sometimes visualise the tree breaking or cracking but i do this kind of thing alot in training, or even when im fighting i visualise the fight as already won, but obviously never underestimate opponents. but i think that bieng posative and always visualising progress victory and determination is key.

[Oraenor]

Shaolin and i part ways over when you should start conditioning, i think you ought to be an adult before you begin any form of iron palm training...

Children should not condition when they are young as they are still growing and need soft tissues to prepare for rapid growth during puberty. Conditioning prior puberty may cause mutilations, growth stunts and psychological damages.
It is rather useless as well to condition as a child since its the adult's job to protect the child and that children can heal faster than adults.

[BoarSpear]

Children should not condition when they are young as they are still growing and need soft tissues to prepare for rapid growth during puberty. Conditioning prior puberty may cause mutilations, growth stunts and psychological damages.
It is rather useless as well to condition as a child since its the adult's job to protect the child and that children can heal faster than adults.

Typo? it must be, its the only way you could agree with me.

[Oraenor]

Typo? it must be, its the only way you could agree with me.

I have agreed with you on afew things actually, then again I have disagreed afew as well. You guys just assumed that I dont condition because i dont punch walls and that I put more emphasis on evasion rather than conditioning.

[BoarSpear]

I have agreed with you on afew things actually, then again I have disagreed afew as well. You guys just assumed that I dont condition because i dont punch walls and that I put more emphasis on evasion rather than conditioning.

I was just givin you sh#t and were in agreement on iron body and iron head as well, you just assumed i dont emphasize evasion.

[Oraenor]

I was just givin you sh#t and were in agreement on iron body and iron head as well, you just assumed i dont emphasize evasion.

haha
hey you know what, I havent seen sherwinc in a while spewing forth his 200:1 ratios and alphabets as well as that thai bri old chaps.What happened to that studiobuddy kid that everyone use to have a go at?
Is it true that thai fighters get thai massages after training as well?