To people who think kung fu/chinese martial arts are useless...

[Tom Yum]

For the general public they will walk away and think "what a load of shit" and "Karate sucks, it would never work for real". The thing is, when taught correctly, it can work for real and I know if guys first hand who are very tough Karate people and have used it for real with excellent results. I'm sure it's the same with other styles too.

I like your style, west.

[WildWest.]

Akuaku> That's my point. People go to one class of lets say Karate for example, the class is taught poorly, it's easy, impractical, the instructor doesn't know his/her stuff, lack of discipline, poor student performance in the higher grades and so on. For the general public they will walk away and think "what a load of shit" and "Karate sucks, it would never work for real". The thing is, when taught correctly, it can work for real and I know if guys first hand who are very tough Karate people and have used it for real with excellent results. I'm sure it's the same with other styles too.

You're right, it's very hard to judge a style if the training is crappy. That's why you cannot acurately judge any style until you have seen the most that that style can give.....and chances are you never will unfortunately but it's good fun looking!!

[aku aku]

Making it real, practical and challenging is how it should be.

I've been to a few classes that were none of those. It's hard to judge how effective a style is if the training is crappy.

[Tom Yum]

Making it real, practical and challenging is how it should be.

I like that!

I've got a growing distaste for complex theory...

[47MartialMan]

huh? Jesus, man...is today "Yoda" day or something?

Jesus as in holy or mexican

[WildWest.]

I'm sick of this "it's not the style, it's the person" bullshit. It's true to a degree...but you get me any yello bamboo or wado ryu guy and put them up against...actually... almost anybody else, and they will get stomped to goo. They'd be better off not training anything at all.

You're correct from a certain point of view. It's more the training that makes one art more effective over another. If you don't train a style to it's limits then you don't get much out of it. How you train is extremely important. Making it real, practical and challenging is how it should be.

[Garland]

The nature of comparing is natural human nature.We look for comarisons for varies reasons. However, not one can have all pros.

huh? Jesus, man...is today "Yoda" day or something?

[47MartialMan]

It is human nature to compare. We look for comparisons for various reasons. However, not one can have all pros.

[Garland]

What is the nature of contrasting and comparing ideas? Finding strengths and weaknesses? So...yeah...I think it would fulfill the task.

[Rickster]

Could comparing anything become a way to learn pros and cons. To gain strengths from study?

[Garland]

What is up with all of these threads?You guys are supposed to be martial artists and understand that there is no art better than the other.A Kung Fu fighter has the same chance of winning a fight as much as a Muay Thai fighter would have and so on.Each art is not useless they are all effective in their own way.

I'm sick of this "it's not the style, it's the person" bullshit. It's true to a degree...but you get me any yello bamboo or wado ryu guy and put them up against...actually... almost anybody else, and they will get stomped to goo. They'd be better off not training anything at all.

[joe360]

What is up with all of these threads?You guys are supposed to be martial artists and understand that there is no art better than the other.A Kung Fu fighter has the same chance of winning a fight as much as a Muay Thai fighter would have and so on.Each art is not useless they are all effective in their own way.

[Rickster]

Check out the wheels on a Formula 1 Racing Car, then visit a museum and check out the wheels on a Roman Racing Chariot. Progression, development, refinement ... what was your question again ?

It is still round and rolls-its very foundational design

[Juicefree]

Two arms, two legs, punch, kick, grab, hold, etc. How can you re-invent the wheel?

Check out the wheels on a Formula 1 Racing Car, then visit a museum and check out the wheels on a Roman Racing Chariot. Progression, development, refinement ... what was your question again ?

[47MartialMan]

You are an equal oppurtunity annoyer.

I like this, I am going to make a poster of it and post it at work.

E.O.A.


I think every martial art since its conception, development, and practice are MMA

Two arms, two legs, punch, kick, grab, hold, etc. How can you re-invent the wheel?