Wing Chun used in Street Fight

[Tom Yum]

http://www.youtube.com/v/Glv1xm8Vk8g

Looks kind of fake...

[KickNit]

Not a very good video. A little out of focus.

[Thai Bri]

Can't get it to load.

[npk9]

Not very good (in reference to quality of the vid) since its being recorded off of a TV or a monitor. I guess we would need to see the source.

[freefighter2010]

Load of rubbish the day WC can be used in a street fight is the day pigs will be flying outside my bedroom window

[Red Rum]

Load of rubbish the day WC can be used in a street fight is the day pigs will be flying outside my bedroom window

Your lack of faith is disturbing...........

[Red Rum]

Load of rubbish the day WC can be used in a street fight is the day pigs will be flying outside my bedroom window

Your lack of faith is disturbing...........

[freefighter2010]

Red Rum,

Apologises to sound so condesending. I read your previous posts about some guys who are very good at WC and from you said can use this style in the street to defend themselves.

Maybe i am taking this too heart too much. When you invest such a long time in a system you expect to beable to defend yourself or else why do it.

Thanks,

Karok

[Red Rum]

I'd say that's entirely fair. Screw "faith." .

My faith comment was a joke.. Has no-one seen Star Wars?

Red Rum - before you get all worked up, I said the training was letting him down, not the style.
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I don't get that worked up anymore - I've chilled out immesley!
And I agree completely with what you are saying about combative arts

[bodhisattva]

My faith comment was a joke.. Has no-one seen Star Wars?


I don't get that worked up anymore - I've chilled out immesley!
And I agree completely with what you are saying about combative arts

Heh. I caught it.

[martialartspeon]

Looks like some fast punches in there but really hard to see, that is a poor quality video. I couldn't tell how he took the guy down at the end. Did anyone catch that?

[Liberty]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynyypQ-wa2Q[/YOUTUBE]

[Liberty]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVds78FSl4E[/YOUTUBE]

[Guest]

The second vid is Alan Orr, and its a shooto rules style fight with no punches to the head. Alan does have a reputation in the UK for being a good Wing Chun man, but he also trains MMA and is the UK rep for the Shark Tank Gym. Just because Alan studies Wing Chun, this isn't a "Wing Chun" fight of any nature, they guy has just put his time in on the mat. I see some big right hands, some left hooks, a thigh kick, some knees and then some submission grappling. Last time I checked, that was called MMA.

I don't mean to be rude but the first fight looks like a couple of guys who have had one too many beers. I respect anyone who gets in the ring and mixes it up, but again this certainly isn't testament to any Wing Chun skill.

We're back to the same old argument that has gone round time and time again. When someone with a background in a specific art, trains in and steps into a different arena, they become a fighter of that arena. They aren't proving their original art - they are proving themselves. So the respect goes to Alan, and the Stella boys, nothing to do with Wing Chun from where I am sitting.

[Guest]

Every style has at the very least a core of concepts, strategies, techniques and attributes – otherwise how can it be recognised or distinguished as a style? Looking specifically at the videos posted, and my understanding of Wing Chun which is not expert but not remedial either, I cannot see any of the afore mentioned factors that distinguish it as a style.

Now look at pretty much any MMA match and you can clearly see the concepts, strategies, techniques and attributes of Wrestling, BJJ, Boxing, Thai (depending on who is fighting). So my point was simple, I give credit to the individuals who step into their own arena, but I saw no Wing Chun in what was posted as a Wing Chun fight. Simple as really.

I have no issue with Wing Chun, but when a man gives lager and tries to tell me its Guinness – he’s gonna know about it.