Ngo Cho Kun

[konghan]

I guess some of you want to know . So, I arrived in my hometown and met my master. After some chitchat time, he checked my sparring skills for a while. Then, guess what? "Show me your Sam Chien." Can't live without it, can we? . Then he saw it and fixed couple things. I guess my first couple weeks will be training Sam Chien hehe.

Nice to hear you arrived safe & sound. Its nice to have a good real teacher personally teaching you.

Do me a favor, show him my students sam chien in the web & see if you can get an opinion from him? see what correction I need to do.

[sherwinc]

I think Arnis comes from Silat... most filipinos are actually Malay peoples, and silat was the original art of the Malays...

that's why im in doubt before that Arnis is not a Philippine martial arts, cause the correct term is "Arnis De Mano" and the Word "De Mano" maybe comes from Malays.....

[sherwinc]

I would say 95% of the tmas in the west are fake, it took me years to find a good Wing Chun school.... many crooks are giving a really bad image to the art.

Very Very Very True...........

[sherwinc]

want to know why KungFu doesnt emphasize GRAPPLING??????

click this link and read it.....

http://www.shaolindynasty.itgo.com/id34.htm

Plum Flower posts (shown right) are put into the ground and vary in height and pattern. Fighting on top of these posts was the ultimate test of skill. To make it even more of a challenge sharpened stakes were placed around the bottom of these posts. A fall could be fatal. This could be one of the reasons why Kungfu does not emphasize grappling on the ground with the opponent.

[krys]

that's why im in doubt before that Arnis is not a Philippine martial arts, cause the correct term is "Arnis De Mano" and the Word "De Mano" maybe comes from Malays.....

De Mano is spanish, it means hands....

The word Arnis is used in most of the country.... in Cebu they use the word escrima (also in a few other places of the Visayas and Mindanao).....

Arnis De Mano is a filipino art but has some spanish influence but the systems of the indigineous unconquered tribes have very little spanish influence or none at all.... I don't know if there are such tribes in Panay...


You can see the spanish influence in the espada y daga (sword and dagger) for example.....

[krys]

In Cebu there are different hybrid cma-arnis systems... lapunti de Abanico escrima, balintawak escrima,... were influenced by cmas.
This link may be of interest:

http://johnnychiuten.8m.com/index.html

[Toudiyama[NL]]

De Mano is spanish, it means hands....

The word Arnis is used in most of the country.... in Cebu they use the word escrima (also in a few other places of the Visayas and Mindanao).....

Arnis De Mano is a filipino art but has some spanish influence but the systems of the indigineous unconquered tribes have very little spanish influence or none at all.... I don't know if there are such tribes in Panay...


You can see the spanish influence in the espada y daga (sword and dagger) for example.....

Kali doesn't sound spanish, maybe that's the art of the unconquered?

[krys]

Kali isn't the art of the unconquered ....
some peoples are pretending Kali is the original art of the Philippines but they are just triying to BS potential students.... nearly nobody in the philippines ever heard of Kali


The tribal peoples had little contact with other groups and kept their martial arts for themselves... they were constantly at war with the spaniards, their conquered filipinos and other unconquered groups...

Each of those tribes has it's own martial arts... in the muslim areas it is silat and kuntaw. Muslims were the most organised group who resisted to the spaniards..... they developped their fighting arts as martial arts...

The unconquered's arts are quite brutal and effective: empty hands, weapons, poison is sometimes used on weapons...

These arts are quickly disapearing due to economic problems, lack of interest of the youth, end of traditional lifestyle, gun culture, in 10-20 years it will probably be all over...

I posted once on this topic:

http://www.defend.net/deluxeforums/s...ad.php?t=10468

[Nothingness]

Nice to hear you arrived safe & sound. Its nice to have a good real teacher personally teaching you.

Do me a favor, show him my students sam chien in the web & see if you can get an opinion from him? see what correction I need to do.

He likes the 2 men set. On the single set, he paid attention to the guy in grey shirt. He said that the movement when the fingers are straighten(before pressing down) needs to be really straight; fingers should be solid in the direction of the arm. Otherwise, it is easy to get injured in the real fight. The distance between the two parallel arms/palms should also be narrower;

I hope this helps.

[konghan]

He likes the 2 men set. On the single set, he paid attention to the guy in grey shirt. He said that the movement when the fingers are straighten(before pressing down) needs to be really straight; fingers should be solid in the direction of the arm. Otherwise, it is easy to get injured in the real fight. The distance between the two parallel arms/palms should also be narrower;

I hope this helps.

Thanks a lot, maybe someday I can meet your master & he can upgrade my training as well.

Actually when that video was taken, the young man his name is Bryan he`s been doing sam chien for 1 months. And yes, your teacher is very correct the two arms should be narrower. In fact, they still need a lot of training to strenghten the arms & legs as well as proper coordinated movements of the legs, hips, shoulders & arms.

In sam chien, I would say its the "sang long" or elbow break that need a lot of concentration to develop the hip power. Then the double low block with T-step this technique is ideal against low attackers ( grapplers, wrestlers, etc. ).

The inside elbow strike, is very powerful & deadly. Using the blocking hand slide it behind the neck & pull it toward you at the same time elbow strike to the face (nose bridge area prefably) then follow up with neck break then finish it off with three punch (di sip kun style) to the chest-sternum area.

i`ll probably upload those sam chien practical fighting techniques in my website soon.

[Nothingness]

It's funny that you mentioned about the elbow strike. I just asked his opinion about what to use against those who like to charge to take down. He said "Sam Chien, use your elbow strike to the side of the head while you are sliding to the right a bit." hmm

I assume you are the man in white shirt? Your moves are strong and your legs are solid.

PS: My master asked me what's your affiliation and I said Konghan. He knows Konghan.

[Nothingness]

I think maybe you should visit your master these days. I envy everyone here; they actually have chances to use what they learn . My master had to take down to attackers just last month. He knocked one guy out and was about to break the other's arm when the police arrived.

[konghan]

I think maybe you should visit your master these days. I envy everyone here; they actually have chances to use what they learn . My master had to take down to attackers just last month. He knocked one guy out and was about to break the other's arm when the police arrived.

My Sifu Lo King Hui he passed away last 1996. It is his son HeadMaster Lo Se Beng ( Henry Lo ) he is now in charge of Kong Han 光 汉 in Manila Philippines. He is my kiak-pai ( blood brother ).

Next year the Ngo Cho Kun International Federation will be held in USA I will probably be there & hopefully I`ll be able to lead a team to represent Canada.

Kung Fu in reality doesn`t have to prove itself in a ring tournament what is important is that it is applicable in real life situation like what happened to your Sifu & to Pitbull.

And for us who grew up in a third world country knows very well that kung fu does work.

[Nothingness]

Keep me posted on the conference. My Sihu says that tomorrow he can start checking my Ji Sip . Wish me luck.

[Toudiyama[NL]]

BTW Kun Tao is fist way