fight experiment???

[haumana2000]

ok, so i had some really stupid thought come into my mind on saturday..

would there be a benefit in a controlled experiement involving alcohols impact on martial performance/application, and memory recall. Ok, we all know that it DOES affect performace, but to what extent? what would the ethical, moral, implications of such an experiement, and any thoughts on the layout? (no pun) I am thinking, ONE person consumes a standard amount of liquor, while the monitor, records performance, then, a little more, record results, and is required to then do some sort of self-defense scenario type function. None of this is sloshed out, shitfaced, fall down drunk, as that is obvious, but I am thinking one, beer, then, three, then five to end the experiement.

what do you think? How many times when you have been out at a club or party, has the thought of self-defense entered your mind, when you start feeling a threat coming on???

[adacas]

I wouldn't mind being in the experiment. Guinea pig is my middle name...only problem is that I'm only 19 but I turn 20 in february. ok so I still got a year to go.

[johnnyada1]

I will do it pick ME oh PIck ME........................


DRUNKEN MASTER RULES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[krys]

Haha use tuba, lambanog or tanduhay for the experiment.....

My first silat instructor taught us how to fight in bars, you know all the nasty tricks with broken bottles, glasses.....

Humm it happened quite often in the past, I used to go to some rough places with my mate (also practicing fmas) while traveling in Asia and we've seen some action
....Actually the day he got drunk for the first time in his life (age 21, half bootle of Vodka, never drank before) we got in trouble in Indonesia with vendors who sought a fight after we refused to buy their cigarettes... the vendors didn't have the upper hand and I had to stop my friend breaking one of those guys cervical vertaebraes silat like...


Nowadays with my girl I have to go to classy bars, no risks and don't drink much anymore as I take silat's teachings seriously.... although my pinoy friends take me from time to time to those pure filipino places in Q.C. and Pasay city where bottles are cheap and fly...

In the Philippines don't get drunk with unknown peoples... to get a reputation in some gangs it is the norm to kill peoples, the more you kill the tougher you appear..
they'll make a filipino who's not from the neighbourhood drunk and stab him, pretending afterwards they killed him in a honest fight...

[haumana2000]

hindi magpapalamang, you have to be able to break rules in the bar!
I have several bar rules I share with my students all the time, as Ive had my share of bar room drama
1. Never sit with your back to the door
2. Never sit at the bar, (ive seen many people get yanked off their stool and onto the floor
3. Never piss at the urinal, (seen many guys get jacked with pants down so to speak) always go the the last stall and watch for feet coming, the good thing, is usually at the last stall is the plunger since bars are notorious for clogging with paper towels. If they follow you in, Palo!!! grab the stick (usually a perfect '26 inches also)
4. Always watch for his friends, look for the whispers and stares of jealousy and envy. He watches you, then looks at his girl to see if she's looking at you. This leads to the power handshake later, where he clamps down while staring you in the eye.;

[krys]

1--4 good points + keep a glass/bottle at hand ready to use it....

[bvermillion]

I think we should get Thai Bri and Spanky drunk and just let them fight each other.

[haumana2000]

The original post had nothing to do with Drunken boxing at all, just the effects of impaired ability due to alcohol consumption. Even if you have one or two glasses of wine your perfromance will still be affected but is the extent? It doesn't have anything to do with not getting fall down drunk, but I know there have been times when I have not drank for a while that I can have one beer, and feel like damn, thats strong!

[haumana2000]

Im not sure, and am no position to speak on Chinese Martial arts origins, I practice Filipino, and Pacific Island Martial arts, and so since FMA is a weapon dominant art, and there are is ready supply of makeshift weapons available in such a setting, the question remains, if you could not avoid or make a peaceful exit, had no intention of the night ending in drama, and had already tilted back a few, say with family members, or close friends or your wife. What would your performance level be in contrast to not having any drinks at all?

[adacas]

Adacas's list of possible bar room brawl weapons:

handheld weapons
1. vodka bottle
2. vodka bottle with broken end
3. the left over shards of a broken vodka bottle
4. vodka
5. bar stool
6. plunger
7. leather belts
8. leather assless chaps (availability depending on the kind of bars you attend)
9. beer tap handles
10. beer tap hose
11. electrical cords
12. pool sticks
13. flourescent lightbulbs.
14. mini drink umbrellas

projectile weapons
1. darts
2. shot glasses
3. cue balls
4. pretzels
5. peanuts
6. salt shaker
7. limes
8. vomit

[yentao]

I never seen drunken boxing in fighting. The only drunken style I know is what Jakie Chan invented that was only suited in films not in a real fight.

[yentao]

Adacas's list of possible bar room brawl weapons:

handheld weapons
1. vodka bottle
2. vodka bottle with broken end
3. the left over shards of a broken vodka bottle
4. vodka
5. bar stool
6. plunger
7. leather belts
8. leather assless chaps (availability depending on the kind of bars you attend)
9. beer tap handles
10. beer tap hose
11. electrical cords
12. pool sticks
13. flourescent lightbulbs.
14. mini drink umbrellas

projectile weapons
1. darts
2. shot glasses
3. cue balls
4. pretzels
5. peanuts
6. salt shaker
7. limes
8. vomit

The Bar Stool is the best tool

[adacas]

there is a drunken boxing style. It looks cool and is confusing but a good way to get your butt handed to you. Jackie chan did not invent it either although some of those moves were of his own device. lol

[krys]

It is part of wushu now ....... tells you everything about it's usefullness.....

[adacas]

Its not worth the vodka induced vomit on the floor of a bar if you want to defend yourself but it looks cool. If you play tekken Lee or Lie or whatever that cops name is he has the ability to do a few moves. I like to think that eskrima would be perfect for a bar especially those with pool tables. Just grab a stick and have a go at it. I had Grandmaster Estallila come over to my house to set up his website and we have a pool table. He had never really played pool before but I started to think that what could be more natural than an eskrima practitioner in a pool hall. He would be like the wolf in the chicken coup. lol