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Balisong, point taken with a grain of salt. 
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Hm. I've found something pretty interesting. I started off trying to figure out how to generate power with the triangle footwork while attacking with a backhand shot while stepping forward right on the female triangle (or the mirror of that technique).
Taomonkey said reverse hip principle..same concept as generating power while angling into throw a cross.
Scytale said that his practice was much like mine, and had him using the forward motion of the step to generate the force, and you go forward and through the opponent as you step forward and sideways.
They both seem to work pretty well. I haven't totally got it down yet, but they both work, and I think they probably work together too. I've been practicing on my heavybag and the footwork used in either way makes a difference. Which is pretty cool, considering it's another thing I learned just with practice and asking a question here.Comment
how i practice it
I don't know how you guys would practice this, but I've taken a drill from judo and adjusted it to fit.
We used to do a drill for entries on osoto gari (major outer reap)where we'd hold our partner's lapels, and step in left and forward (forward left on the female triangle, really) and pull the rear foot forward and place it behind his heel.. we'd then step back on the triangle point, and then forward right and do the same. We'd do this for 20 repetitions and aim for smootheness. good drill to do just before wrestling hard.
I just use two sticks, chambered on either side of my neck. I step forward left and strike with the right stick forehand. then step back and forward right and strike with the left stick forehand. Build it to a fast rate with good technique.
I don't know how you guys would practice this, but I've taken a drill from judo and adjusted it to fit.
We used to do a drill for entries on osoto gari (major outer reap)where we'd hold our partner's lapels, and step in left and forward (forward left on the female triangle, really) and pull the rear foot forward and place it behind his heel.. we'd then step back on the triangle point, and then forward right and do the same. We'd do this for 20 repetitions and aim for smootheness. good drill to do just before wrestling hard.
I just use two sticks, chambered on either side of my neck. I step forward left and strike with the right stick forehand. then step back and forward right and strike with the left stick forehand. Build it to a fast rate with good technique.
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another thing: i've heard CMA say that "the right hand moves with the right foot, the left hand moves with the left foot"..meaning, that frequently when your left hand moves, your left foot is directly under it..and when your right hand moves, your right foot is often under it. this seems to be the case with this strike/footwork.
anyone else working on this strike/footwork combo?
anyone else working on this strike/footwork combo?
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I don't believe that principle necessarily holds true under the FMA w/ weapons or w/out.
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Originally posted by quietanswer
another thing: i've heard CMA say that "the right hand moves with the right foot, the left hand moves with the left foot"..meaning, that frequently when your left hand moves, your left foot is directly under it..and when your right hand moves, your right foot is often under it. this seems to be the case with this strike/footwork.
anyone else working on this strike/footwork combo?
another thing: i've heard CMA say that "the right hand moves with the right foot, the left hand moves with the left foot"..meaning, that frequently when your left hand moves, your left foot is directly under it..and when your right hand moves, your right foot is often under it. this seems to be the case with this strike/footwork.
anyone else working on this strike/footwork combo?
Danny T
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cool. that means I'm working on something worthwhile.
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quoting danny t:
In the Pekiti training I have received we practiced power striking any angle while stepping on all three sides of the triangles: Forward, reverse, diamond, step thru diamond, hourglass, butterfly and others
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hm. where can I find drills that give the footwork for these patterns? I've been watching my dog brothers tapes on 'SLOWmotion' so I can record some of the footwork movements he's doing..just figuring it out myself. do you know of a resource that explains all these patterns? such as step through diamond? or butterfly? I could probably figure them out on my own, I bet..but it would be cool to have it all laid out for me to practice already..
wish I had an accomplished jkd/fma teacher nearby..one that knows EVERYTHING..
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quiteanswer: Try this pattern on the floor
The post won't allow me to draw a pattern
Make a square box approx 3ft X 3ft
Place an X in the box from corner to corner
Place a forward arrow over the box
Mark the center A
left upper corner B
point of the roof C
right upper corner D
right lower corner E
left lower corner F
Point of the roof C
left upper corner B D rt upper corner
center of the box A
Left lower corner F E rt lower corner
Work these stepping patterns:
Forward Arrow Stepping :
With both feet on A step back with left foot to F; left foot forward to A and right foot back to E
Repeat using all the striking angles.
Reverse Arrow Stepping :
With both feet on A step forward with left foot to B;
left foot back to A and right foot forward to D
Repeat using all the striking angles.
Forward Triangle:
Starting at A left foot back to F then right foot to E then left foot to A quickly switch feet while stepping left foot to F again. This will have you moving Counter clockwise. To go clockwise start at A and step with the rt
foot to E then left foot to F and so on.
Repeat using all the striking angles. After becoming comfortable with the stepping try changing
directions without stopping. Also try starting from the different points of the triangle.
Reverse Triangle: Same as Forward only use A-B-D
Diamond: A-B-C-D or A-D-C-B
Diamond step thru: A-B-D-C-B-D-A Or A-D-B-C-D-B-A
Hour-glass:
Starting with the left foot at F rt at A lunge stepping with rt foot to D and allow left to slide up the left foot to B, rt foot to A then a lunge step with rt to E allowing
left to slide to A, left to F, rt to A and continue. Do this in the opposite direction and starting at different points and Switch directions without stopping.
Butterfly:
I will leave this to your imagination! You should be able to work several different variations by using the different pattens already presented.
Side Triangle:
Try this for a different pattern.
Starting a A step left to B, rt to F as you turn to face rt. Left to A, rt to E, left to F as you turn to face left, rt to A, left to B again.
Repeat using all the striking angles.
Also use the opposite side. A-D-E-A-F-A
Let me know how it goes.
Danny T
[Edited by Danny T on 12-08-2000 at 11:17 PM]
The post won't allow me to draw a pattern
Make a square box approx 3ft X 3ft
Place an X in the box from corner to corner
Place a forward arrow over the box
Mark the center A
left upper corner B
point of the roof C
right upper corner D
right lower corner E
left lower corner F
Point of the roof C
left upper corner B D rt upper corner
center of the box A
Left lower corner F E rt lower corner
Work these stepping patterns:
Forward Arrow Stepping :
With both feet on A step back with left foot to F; left foot forward to A and right foot back to E
Repeat using all the striking angles.
Reverse Arrow Stepping :
With both feet on A step forward with left foot to B;
left foot back to A and right foot forward to D
Repeat using all the striking angles.
Forward Triangle:
Starting at A left foot back to F then right foot to E then left foot to A quickly switch feet while stepping left foot to F again. This will have you moving Counter clockwise. To go clockwise start at A and step with the rt
foot to E then left foot to F and so on.
Repeat using all the striking angles. After becoming comfortable with the stepping try changing
directions without stopping. Also try starting from the different points of the triangle.
Reverse Triangle: Same as Forward only use A-B-D
Diamond: A-B-C-D or A-D-C-B
Diamond step thru: A-B-D-C-B-D-A Or A-D-B-C-D-B-A
Hour-glass:
Starting with the left foot at F rt at A lunge stepping with rt foot to D and allow left to slide up the left foot to B, rt foot to A then a lunge step with rt to E allowing
left to slide to A, left to F, rt to A and continue. Do this in the opposite direction and starting at different points and Switch directions without stopping.
Butterfly:
I will leave this to your imagination! You should be able to work several different variations by using the different pattens already presented.
Side Triangle:
Try this for a different pattern.
Starting a A step left to B, rt to F as you turn to face rt. Left to A, rt to E, left to F as you turn to face left, rt to A, left to B again.
Repeat using all the striking angles.
Also use the opposite side. A-D-E-A-F-A
Let me know how it goes.
Danny T
[Edited by Danny T on 12-08-2000 at 11:17 PM]
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danny t: Hey thanks. I printed all that out. I read through a lot of it.. the first 2 or 3 patterns I already practice. I thought I already practiced the one you call forward triangle, but after working through it, it's a new pattern that hasn't been taught to me yet. I'm not too sure what the movement pattern 'diamond' is..I read your instructions, but I'm not sure which feet are moving where.. as far as I can tell, the lettering you give for it is more of a triangle..but I'll work on it some more.
Thanks for the time it took to type that out. I think I know what you mean by saying "draw a box, put an arrow over it" but I'm not sure. I think I have it right though. if i start to wonder, I'll email you a drawing of how i've got it.
Thanks for the time it took to type that out. I think I know what you mean by saying "draw a box, put an arrow over it" but I'm not sure. I think I have it right though. if i start to wonder, I'll email you a drawing of how i've got it.
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hm. it won't let me quote right now.
well. I said:
another thing: i've heard CMA say that "the right hand moves with the right foot, the left hand moves with the left foot"..meaning, that frequently when your left hand moves, your left foot is directly under it..and when your right hand moves, your right foot is often under it. this seems to be the case with this strike/footwork.
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Chad W. Getz replied:I don't believe that principle necessarily holds true under the FMA w/ weapons or w/out.
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my reply:
Actually, it does, I think. Standing with a stick in your right and left hand, step out to the forward right point on the female triangle. Simultaneously throw a one angle with the right hand stick. do it in the manner that it generates energy from your step and your hip twist. while doing this, the right hand will pretty much be directly over the right foot..if your the type that keeps his hands low while striking, especially.
well. I said:
another thing: i've heard CMA say that "the right hand moves with the right foot, the left hand moves with the left foot"..meaning, that frequently when your left hand moves, your left foot is directly under it..and when your right hand moves, your right foot is often under it. this seems to be the case with this strike/footwork.
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Chad W. Getz replied:I don't believe that principle necessarily holds true under the FMA w/ weapons or w/out.
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my reply:
Actually, it does, I think. Standing with a stick in your right and left hand, step out to the forward right point on the female triangle. Simultaneously throw a one angle with the right hand stick. do it in the manner that it generates energy from your step and your hip twist. while doing this, the right hand will pretty much be directly over the right foot..if your the type that keeps his hands low while striking, especially.
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I meant not all the time, but not as a rule of thumb.
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