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Personal Defence from what? A small army? Monkeys with ninja stars? that is a lot of firepower for "personal defence"
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The person who said this has been forgotten..probably cause he's dead. Its naive to think you know what your opponent is going to be thinking. What if you grab his knife-wielding-right hand, and he changes hands? If the man has any knife fighting experience, he has trained for people attempting to take the weapon away. You really think a wrist-lock is going to stop this guy in his tracks?lol. I forgot who said it, but its not miraculous to wrestle a knife from some one, not easy, but without a doubt not miraculous. Some one with a knife focuses only on the knife, and once you have their hand, wrist, or have that hand with the knife in anyway, their plans suddenly dont work so well. But it is true, running IS your best bet, just saying its not quite as impossible as you might think it is.Comment
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What you say has SOME truth to it, but the truth is that when most people are using a knife, they are not calm, and have not trained for it, and are ignorant to using a knife, even someone whos used one before. And if they have any real training with a knife, it will probably be a different story, though I still do not think that it would be a miracle to take a knife from someone, and I didnt not suggest a simple wrist lock would take care of a person with a knife, though in certain situations it could be damn effective. I only say its not a miricle, because Ive been in the situation, without the running option, though Ive never come across someone formally trained to use a knife, and I dont think most people who would train to use one are punks who would use them to attack someone maliciously.Originally posted by HtTKarComment
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And beilive you me, when these punks who are going to attack you come at you with a knife, most of them are not weilding their weapon gracefully or with any inteligible technique, which can be terrifying, but if prepared can be stopped.Comment
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Definitly look into Sayoc Kali.Comment
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definately Sayoc. it's not even a system it's a freaking science.
MullinsComment
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Many realistic and sensible replies that I have to agree with.
I have trained with one of these so called knife-experts and believe you me.
If I really went for him with the knife most times I got him.
And it only takes one mistake and he's done-for!
often clear strikes to critical parts of his body !
and he has trained organisations all over the country!
Some people make a living out of this mis-conception!
And worse still some people - believe it!
Try and use it at your peril -
oh and make sure you have a will!Comment
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Killer knife stuff
Yes! I agree very much. Also look into Pekiti Tirsia Kali.Originally posted by 95 Mystic TA
Also Rick Faye in Minneapolis Minnesota of Minnesota Kali Group teaches quite effectively in developing and training no-nonsense knife combat skills.
Chow!
DanJuan
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Cute story (not sure if it's true),
I knew a low-ranking black belt (2nd - 3rd) in Shotokan. He was jumped by a guy wielding a knife (intelligence of this individual is still under debate.) Shotokan guy grabbed the blade of the knife with his bare hand and pulled it from the attacker's surprised hand, taking the cut on the palm, then blasted him in the nose with the other hand, KO'ing him. Effective, however not my style.
In my opinion, wrists locks are the key to disarming your man, aside from striking his arms and hands. They allow control of the entire arm and by proxy the body as well as loosen the grip on the knife. You cannot lie back and wait for him to come to you. You have to hype up to his level and get pumped, as he will be pumped.Originally posted by AznWarrior
Imaging you are wrestling with your siblings. If they touch you with their right hand, you die. Stand with your right side forward. It's further from the heart and will bleed slower. Don't turn the bottoms of your arms toward the attacker, keep your palms facing in and take any cuts on the top of your arms and hands, where there are less artries and to keep the blood off your hands so they don't become slippery.
Just throwing whatever to block whatever will get you killed, it's too fast and you'll get lost. You have to have a plan for what to do with you hands. For example, your right hand picks up everything high, left hand gets everything low, or something along these lines. Use the off-hand to help control after your origonal offset or block. We call it, simply, primary and secondary. Everything that goes into the primary area gets picked up by the primary hand. For me that's my left. Then my right, secondary, helps to cover and control.
You can feel if the attacker moves to strike with the opposite hand. In order for one arm to go long, the other needs to go short. If while both my hands are on the attacking arm the other arm starts to come, the primary hand releases and counters, while the secondary hand retains control.
This takes years, but it can be done. After a while, no one should be able to touch you, unless you let them (barring of course those who have been in it longer than you, there are counters for everything). If you die while trying to do this, I'm not liable.
It takes years and I'm still making mistakes too. I'll die a thousand times in the dojo to live once on the street.
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Originally posted by Hikage
The first lesson of knife combat is NEVER GRAB THE BLADE! There are exceptions to every rule but that comes later when you know how to do it so it WON'T CUT YOU.
The only folks I ever knew (of) that actually advocate "taking a cut" are some Krav Maga guys.
You're right about attacking but your timing and tactics will be critical. It's been a while since I played with steel but the whole idea is NOT to get CUT if I remember right.
I'm kinda into karambits now. Don't get me wrong, I love a Bowie, a tanto, a K-Bar or any quality blade but the Karambit is more difficult to disarm and better IMHO for retention = better for CQC.
One of my best disarm/destructions is a simple figure four straight arm lock. Get the elbow first and work your way down to the wrist. You can use many other things in conjunction but it's best to control the whole arm from the outside (not between his arms) where you can kick his knee out or drag him down on the deck. If you can break his Clavical, dislocate his shoulder, sprain his elbow or his wrist I doubt he'll be wanting to fight or hold a weapon anymore... But, I have been wrong before (and I have the scars to prove it)
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Please excuse my bluntness, but you know nothing of knife fighting. You may be fine against the average knife wielding drunk, but if you were to encounter a pro, based on your response, he'd carve you up like a Thanksgiving turkey.
-HikageComment
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Krav Maga guys? I doubt they are legit. I am a "Krav Maga Guy" and we have NEVER been givin that sort of nonsense about "taking a cut" I would like to know where u guys come up with this stuff.Originally posted by Tant01T
The only folks I ever knew (of) that actually advocate "taking a cut" are some Krav Maga guys.
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A BPV and bigger gun?Originally posted by FishboyComment
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Or I suppose you could always hang out with people or in places where people arn't likley to have knives or guns......Comment
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