practical snake disarm

[Garland]

so...long story short, I got into an altercation Oct.31st with a person with a golfclub, they hit me twice before I managed to wrap it, and as I tried to snake it away,(he was struggling with it, holding and jerking it towards him) I snapped the damn thing in half.

I was just wondering, if I have to apply that much force without getting it out of his hands, I must be doing something wrong.
I wrapped, I checked(with my elbow instead of palm up), and turned in with my weight.

I know I screwed up (the technique), I just wonder how. (besides being dumb enough to get into a fight.)

[BoarSpear]

so...long story short, I got into an altercation Oct.31st with a person with a golfclub, they hit me twice before I managed to wrap it, and as I tried to snake it away,(he was struggling with it, holding and jerking it towards him) I snapped the damn thing in half.

I was just wondering, if I have to apply that much force without getting it out of his hands, I must be doing something wrong.
I wrapped, I checked(with my elbow instead of palm up), and turned in with my weight.

I know I screwed up (the technique), I just wonder how. (besides being dumb enough to get into a fight.)

Inside or outside snake? Did you remember to hit him as you wrapped it? A lowline kick perhaps? these things make disarms go much smoother.

[jubaji]

I didn't know snakes had arms...

[BoarSpear]

I didn't know snakes had arms...

hehehe...smartass

[jubaji]

hehehe...smartass

ok, I admit that one was gratuitous.

[seanyseanybean]

I dont know what a snake disarm is?? Can someone please explain it to me.

Has it got any thing to do with Snake Style Kung Fu?

Sound like you did it pretty damn cool if you snapped it in half, the guy must have been shitting himself.

[RapidAssault16]

A snake disarm is a Kali or Arnis technique in which one's live hand, or empty hand, moves into the the attack of the attacker and literally, with a snake-like motion, wraps around the attackers weapon and with proper mechanics, disarms the weapon. Personally, I have never seen a snake disarm operate without some difficulty.

If I ever attempt a snake disarm, I don't view it as a "disarm" at all. I often move into the attack, snake my live hand in and wrap my arm around my opponents arm and weapon. Instead of disarming the weapon, I do the snake wrap, and keep it there as a means to restrain my opponent in that position, not to necessarily disarm them. Then, with my weapon hand, I just pound the guy to hell.

I hope that made sense.

[BoarSpear]

I dont know what a snake disarm is?? Can someone please explain it to me.

Has it got any thing to do with Snake Style Kung Fu?

The snake is not from KF. Basically it is an FMA term...that being said im gonna use KF to explain it When you intercept a limb, you wrap your wrist around their wrist or forearm. Now follow the fingers up and around the limb to the next joint, thats called coiling. This can be done from the inside or outside. You also lift your palm and usually press outward and upward to either lock the arm or strip the weapon. I really prefer to be hitting you in the face or throat when executing this type of attack in order to distract you.

It is VERY important to remember you are fighting the man, NOT the weapon. people often get caught up fighting over the weapon when you could drop the opponent who is focused on it instead of you.

[Crafty Dog]

" Personally, I have never seen a snake disarm operate without some difficulty."

I have had snake disarms work for me-- including one time with my leg while fighting from guard. FWIW my sense of things is that this is often a rather practical disarm. Even partial success yields a muffled weapon. Of course, tunnel vision can get you clocked , , ,

[Garland]

no...I restrained myself from hitting him the whole time.
It did get me a rather nice goose-egg, a few deep bruises, and a bite mark on my collar bone. (hehehehe, yeah, I know)

After I broke the club, I pulled a knife, and he backed down.

[BoarSpear]

no...I restrained myself from hitting him the whole time.
It did get me a rather nice goose-egg, a few deep bruises, and a bite mark on my collar bone. (hehehehe, yeah, I know)

After I broke the club, I pulled a knife, and he backed down.

okay I will ask the the "fun" question...What the #$%@ possesed you to restrain yourself from from hitting him? He was armed with a weapon, the fact he couldnt use it is why you escaped. Think about it, if you had the golf club he would have gotten beaned right? Is it your fault he sucks? didnt he start it? t mercy is a kids game. Then you go from not striking to live blade? Big jump in weapons choices dude. A snake and a pop under the chin with a palm to relieve him of said club is better than resorting to live blade after a skirmish.

use that brain man, i like ya but sometimes i gotta wonder man...

[zchaos]

inside or outside wrap...A.K.A snake or vine

[Garland]

okay I will ask the the "fun" question...What the #$%@ possesed you to restrain yourself from from hitting him? He was armed with a weapon, the fact he couldnt use it is why you escaped. Think about it, if you had the golf club he would have gotten beaned right? Is it your fault he sucks? didnt he start it? t mercy is a kids game. Then you go from not striking to live blade? Big jump in weapons choices dude. A snake and a pop under the chin with a palm to relieve him of said club is better than resorting to live blade after a skirmish.

use that brain man, i like ya but sometimes i gotta wonder man...

Okay, here's my rationale....he didn't hit me with the club until the end, I know the kid and I thought he was posturing until I got hit. Also...I was less concerned about the club when it was intact...because when it snapped, the end of it was sharp, and I didn't want to be impaled.

When I broke the club...he backed off, about twelve feet, but he turned back around so I drew the knife. The kid is already terrified of me...probably thought I was going to kill him.

So...after all of this shit, he tries to tell people he wants to pursue some sort of legal thing because I pulled a knife on him. It wasn't until I heard that (idle threats, I'm positive) that I felt that I should have just beat his ass instead of act like a punching bag trying to calm him down.
Stupid son of a bitch can't hit worth shit, anyway...


I was screwing around outside (it was Halloween, I was can-canning in a mini skirt in front of some kids), he thought something I did was directed at him, so he started talking shit, I pursued and tryed to reassure him that he took something the wrong way...and he pushed me, so I laughed it off, tried to give him a big hug and explain myself...
until he started hitting me, so I just squeezed his arms down, because I knew sooner or later the gold club would come into play, the whole time trying to talk to him.....and he bites my collar bone.
It didn't hurt that bad, I was actually sort of shocked...damn...what a pussy...it was actually almost comical.
So...I threw him in a guillotine choke from there...wrapped my legs over him, and braced myself for landing...he couldnt breathe, I told him to calm down, and I'd let go...his pall pulled me off of him, and I tried for a triangle choke...missed it, got up, got hit twice, once in the leg, second time in the head, and the third swing I zoned, caught the club and jerked the opposite direction three times and it snapped in half.

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back to the rest of the story.

[blitz]

Okay, here's my rationale....he didn't hit me with the club until the end, I know the kid and I thought he was posturing until I got hit. Also...I was less concerned about the club when it was intact...because when it snapped, the end of it was sharp, and I didn't want to be impaled.

When I broke the club...he backed off, about twelve feet, but he turned back around so I drew the knife. The kid is already terrified of me...probably thought I was going to kill him.

So...after all of this shit, he tries to tell people he wants to pursue some sort of legal thing because I pulled a knife on him. It wasn't until I heard that (idle threats, I'm positive) that I felt that I should have just beat his ass instead of act like a punching bag trying to calm him down.
Stupid son of a bitch can't hit worth shit, anyway...


I was screwing around outside (it was Halloween, I was can-canning in a mini skirt in front of some kids), he thought something I did was directed at him, so he started talking shit, I pursued and tryed to reassure him that he took something the wrong way...and he pushed me, so I laughed it off, tried to give him a big hug and explain myself...
until he started hitting me, so I just squeezed his arms down, because I knew sooner or later the gold club would come into play, the whole time trying to talk to him.....and he bites my collar bone.
It didn't hurt that bad, I was actually sort of shocked...damn...what a pussy...it was actually almost comical.
So...I threw him in a guillotine choke from there...wrapped my legs over him, and braced myself for landing...he couldnt breathe, I told him to calm down, and I'd let go...his pall pulled me off of him, and I tried for a triangle choke...missed it, got up, got hit twice, once in the leg, second time in the head, and the third swing I zoned, caught the club and jerked the opposite direction three times and it snapped in half.

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back to the rest of the story.

I love you. You try too much to not hurt your opponent.. I admit i woulda started beating him way before you did lol, I don't try calming down a guy that has a golf club, however, I don't understand wether his pall was trying to beat you up with him or was he just trying to break it up. If he wasn't why would you try a triangle when you have 2 of them beating you?

[Garland]

I love you. You try too much to not hurt your opponent.. I admit i woulda started beating him way before you did lol, I don't try calming down a guy that has a golf club, however, I don't understand wether his pall was trying to beat you up with him or was he just trying to break it up. If he wasn't why would you try a triangle when you have 2 of them beating you?

he was just trying to break it up. He got me off of the kid and then stepped WAY back.