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  • #16
    Originally posted by lorenzodamarith View Post
    this might simply be a matter of nomenclature. kali is similar to kalis (verb: to scrape) lending itself to bladework. silat (noun: fighting skill) SOUNDS more like unarmed methods.
    Some people prefer escrima to FMA for emptyhand work. It's not all that uncommon. An FMA guy told me I personally needed boxing, but that was for an individual reason. In fact there are a lot of reasons people train different arts that have little or nothing to do with their qualifications.

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    • #17
      hello,

      oh absolutely!! agreed. but that is part of what is so great about living nowadays. you can train in anything ya want when ya want!!!

      thanks.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by lorenzodamarith View Post
        oh absolutely!! agreed. but that is part of what is so great about living nowadays. you can train in anything ya want when ya want!!!
        It's terrible!! I have two places I want to train at regularly, plus the SPEAR sessions and a class I want to take! No wonder I'm always broke!!

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        • #19
          hello,

          hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! welcome to the plight of every serious martial artist!!

          train, rent, eat.... pick one!!!

          thanks.

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          • #20
            Hello Guys,

            I have trained in both Japanese and Filipino stick based systems for many years. Both have incredible merits to their training methodology and tactics. The biggest weakness that I have come across in the Japanese systems is the lack of 1 on 1 sparring, not that it doesn't exist but it is not emphasized as a main point of training. (Although you do see this in Jukendo (bayonet), atarashii naginata, kendo, and some Okinawan bojutsu systems.)

            Gumagalang
            Guro Steve L.

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            • #21
              Guro Steve! I was trying to find your webpage the other day.

              What's the biggest weakness you've come across in the Filipino systems?

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              • #22
                Hello Yael,

                I've been spending a lot of time revamping my website, with more material shot this upcoming weekend for more Member's lessons. So drop on over when you can!

                As for the biggest weakness?? That is a tough one, as most of the systems I have trained in have been pretty solid. One item I have noticed is that although footwork during drilling is taught, it falls out the window when sparring occurs. Many if not all of us practice a variety of footwork drills, but have you noticed during sparring that only a very few are put to test? Usually this is the back and forth motion, as well as a circling as opponent's stalk each other. Implementation and integration of proper footwork is not always fully put into a students training. One item that Sayoc Kali differs in is that proper body mechanics is taught before footowork, the underlying reason is that footwork enhances body mechanics, and without proper body mechanics you will not survive a blade encounter long enough to employ footwork skills..

                Gumagalang
                Guro Steve L.


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by treelizard View Post
                  It's terrible!! I have two places I want to train at regularly, plus the SPEAR sessions and a class I want to take! No wonder I'm always broke!!
                  its ok, spending money on martial arts is better than a lot of other things people spend money on.

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                  • #24
                    Airyu,

                    Just curious what type of footwork drills are you practicing that don't come out in sparring? What systems do the drills come from?

                    jth

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                    • #25
                      One big thing I've picked up on in the (very limited) time I've observed taijutsu is that it seems every weapon technique that is used would work without the weapon. The weapon is just icing on the cake. Often it is used just to facilitate proper body movement. I don't know if this could be said for all the FMAs...

                      Interesting about the footwork. There are some interesting stances in taijutsu that I have trouble figuring out how they would work in a real encounter... especially since people generally move their hands before moving their feet irl...

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                      • #26
                        Hello Again,

                        Yael - I agree with you on the various taijutsu kamae, but with an understanding that all kamae are really designed as "in movement" positions, instead of just a "standing" position. Although, various "stances" in many arts are designed as a lead in to particular techniques and tactics that may be specific to an art. These would include various baits and feints, psychological tactics, or dynamic entry techniques.

                        Jheath - Footwork drills are always a touchy subject with a many practitioners, as we have been taught that footwork is always the begining of all techniques. The caveat is that Body mechanics, proper movement and placement of the body in relationship to your opponent or their weapon, is highly overlooked and not often related to footwork only based tactics. An example: you are backed against a wall and an opponent is about to attack you with a bladed weapon, you have no where to run, and must now rely on your body mechanics to ensure that you will survive the initial onslaught and be able to utilize footwork. Since the average person can utilize the blade in rapid movement, a minimum of 4 - 5 cuts can occur in the time it takes to take 1 step, so body mechanics must come into play heavily.

                        In sparring, with a partner or opponent, it becomes a duel of sorts, both of you are aware that the purpose of the duel is to strike each other and as such only the most basic footwork comes into play. Examine and engage in many stick matches and look at the footwork a typical match will start with:

                        1) 2 opponents circling in some fashion

                        2) An opening strike will occur by one opponent(if within range) stepping forward to engage the other. A baiting attack may have occurred as well with a retreating step put into play thereby luring an opponent in for the counterstrike.

                        3) Full engagement where multiple strikes and forward, backward and occasional sidestepping or "triangle footwork" occurs (a triangle step occurs each time a person does step off from a base)

                        4) many various iterations of the above steps happen.

                        Footwork is necessary without question!! Along with proper body mechanics a practitioner can jump to new levels of skill in his/her respective arts. But often the missing piece is the integration and implementation of training methodologies to enhance your training get you to that level.

                        Gumagalang
                        Guro Steve L.

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                        • #27
                          Thank you.

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                          • #28
                            Hello TL.,

                            Your welcome. I'll be posting new training articles and videos up in the coming weeks so stay tuned as the website upgrades continue!

                            Gumagalang
                            Guro Steve L.

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