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There's a distinct relationship between what is hidden in the dances and games of children and women that highly parallel the Philippine's Art and Science passed down from father to son. Take a look at Cepa-Cepa [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpBmGnTqjVQ[/YOUTUBE]on you tube or this file on Sinawali that we filmed in Sydney, Australia and compare it to the dances originated out of Tinakling, and soon we'll have some contact sparing techniques there too. Spar with someone that knows and see the difference, coming up soon. Be sure to visit us in Las Vagas NV June 6 to June 12th, 2007 contact MasGuru@KaliSilat.org for more information. We'll be visiting with Great Grand Master Largusa's son, Master Lindsey Largusa June 8th, 9th, 10th, 2007 [YOUTUBE]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ds2VD7-EIcw[/YOUTUBE]