info on TJJ not sparring.

[CKD]

O.K I just got trolled to death at a another forum for saying in Jigaro Kanos time there was no sparring in TJJ and it was all learned by kata and thats why he made Randori. Thats pretty basic and well known information right? Well now everyone says I do not know what i am talking about and I am lying and they are asking me to site my source. So anyone have a website telling that?

[BadgerFu57]

Jigoro Kano didn't make up randori....

It has been practiced a whole lot.... it just wasn't safe enough in his mind for everyone, so he made Judo rules so that everyone could do it.

Some TJJ do Randori, Some don't, depends on the school.... TJJ isn't bad at all. See the Last Samurai with Tom Cruise.

[jules]

movies are not what i call a "reliable source"....

[BadgerFu57]

The Last Samurai isn't my primary source, I just thought it was a cool movie.

[CKD]

In Jigaro Kano's time most jiu jitsu schools learned from kata.

[jules]

The Last Samurai isn't my primary source, I just thought it was a cool movie.

and it's also the only source you mentioned....

[Toudiyama[NL]]

In Jigaro Kano's time most jiu jitsu schools learned from kata.

I'm not shure about this, mainly because I have this question, one of the few Kata that survived is goshin no kata from judo, why are there so few others if TJJJ was Kata based?

Wado karate is a blend of TJJJ and Okinawa Karate but you will only find the Kata from karate not from TJJJ

From his TJMA background he found missing from Funagoshi's Karate was short excercises with a partner (called kumite in karate) and sparring

TJJJ isn't one style , there were many many styles that range from groundfighting to striking, this complete art as it is presented so often is a blend of the major styles, like they did with Kendo
Some may have only trained Kata, others did do randori

[kengar]

The training methods of JJ were too aggressive and with no control, which lead to many unnecessary injuries. Kano developed Judo and provided people with a way to train effectively and minimize injury.

[HuSanYan]

O.K I just got trolled to death at a another forum

I can believe it

[CKD]

Was that a insult? For what may I ask?

[HuSanYan]

Was that a insult? For what may I ask?

for being a filthy Troll

[CKD]

a filthy troll how?

[HuSanYan]

a filthy troll how?

I've got my eye on ya CKD

[CKD]

I said they trolled ME off. They were like all Bullet proof monk clones saying there chi was too deadly to fight in competetions. They scared me.

[HuSanYan]

I said they trolled ME off. They were like all Bullet proof monk clones saying there chi was too deadly to fight in competetions. They scared me.

i understand