Mas Oyama's Hands

[Thai Bri]

You tried it then?

[Useless]

thats dedication (or fixation) for you.

i think he does 2 hrs of breaking a day. now that's tough

What's with that breaking shit? We've got jackhammers AND sledgehammers for that now. Why not start BUILDING stuff and reverse the trend?

If some turd I knew went around breaking stuff 2 hrs a day I would call the nice fellas with the white jackets to come and get him and lock him up in this padded cell. Try breaking something now, turd.

[shuyun]

What's with that breaking shit? We've got jackhammers AND sledgehammers for that now. Why not start BUILDING stuff and reverse the trend?

If some turd I knew went around breaking stuff 2 hrs a day I would call the nice fellas with the white jackets to come and get him and lock him up in this padded cell. Try breaking something now, turd.

We all know about the saying that boards don’t hit back. True.

But there’s a context to why it was said. It means that breaking is not a sign of mastery of fighting. But it never meant that breaking is useless. Heck Bruce broke boards too. Though he preferred dangling boards rather than braced boards on the ground because dangling boards were more in the context of combat.

Breaking has its roots from straw cutting in kenjitsu. The purpose was to ready the limbs for feedback when cutting through. Cutting a man down is not as easy as it seems.

The point of breaking practice therefore is to make breaking techniques second nature. Why? Because no matter how much you can pulverize in one punch if you need to hyperventilate for two minutes before you throw an actual punch then I must say you’re pretty useless. But if a traditional martial artist (I used ‘traditional’ on purpose because a lot of people are treating it like a bad word.) can break through marble with a mere shout as preparation then I’d think twice of trying to take him to the ground. If I make a wrong move he may just make me pay with my cranium.

When you can stand the pain of practicing two hours a day (yes that is overkill) then it maybe a pretty good assumption that you may have learned to use a breaking technique on demand. Now that’s scary.

A martial artist friend of mine was mugged at knifepoint. In retaliation he sidekicked the mugger’s head and missed! But where his foot landed, it shattered the underlying plaster. This made the mugger think twice and run away. Why? Well because if he didn’t miss that would have been his head.

And lastly, if you have a friend turd that can break stuff, then you’d have to be committed to the nice guys in white and have YOU thrown in your padded room. Because guess what, turds cant do sh*t.

[Garland]

And lastly, if you have a friend turd that can break stuff, then you’d have to be committed to the nice guys in white and have YOU thrown in your padded room. Because guess what, turds cant do sh*t.

I think I just laughed so hard I pissed my pants. Thanks assholes....these were nice pants.

[silapathai]

My shotokan instructor is around 55 years old.
Both hands are like Mas oyama knuckles.
The two big knuckles are joined due to years of makiwara.
It is 'freaky' like some deformity.
the knuckles have a skin as hard as the sole of feets that been walking barefoot for many years.
Now he does not suffer of arthritis as yet.
But you guys must remember, it is not only a knuckles condition exercise but also with such exercise you are conditioning the wrist, elbow, shoulder and spine from bare hand strikes impacts.
I have done such conditioning (my dad and later on wife used to be really upset about it) but I had never have to 'wrap' my hand (the way boxers do) and never had problem punching hard 'bags'.
It is not only an exercise aiming at breaking stuff but more aiming at the 'back' of the target. That is why a Karateka punch is different from a boxer: the boxer 'push' the bag while the Karateka aims at the back of the bag and strikes.
Conditioning your knuckles using a makiwara is a must if you want to do karate.
Imagine even boxers brake their hands (wrapped and gloved) during fight.
A karateka fight barehand making such exercise vital if you are planning to strike somebody with bare knuckle without getting hurt.
Ok, Makiwara training maybe after you reach 18 years old (your bones development) and around green belt is reasonable time to start.

Some of what you say is right and some of it is misinformation...I'm a nidan in Shito Ryu and also have boxing experience and muay thai experience. Not all boxers wrap there hands when they're training for 1...In boxing we do different punches and sometimes need wrist/knuckle support because we're not punching totally linear and using the first 2 knuckles. A good punch from a boxer doesn't push...some of them do, yes but not all of them. Did your sensei teach you this? before I ever got involved with boxing and muay thai I was brainwashed into thinking that karate was no. 1 and better than boxing(lol). The truth is it all depends on what application/scenario you're talking about, there are times where I think a karateka will have an advantage over a boxer and there are times when a boxer will over a karateka..most boxers i know could hurt most of the karatekas that I know..why? Because of the intensity of the training and used to getting punched in the face, etc. Don't get me wrong, I know some karateka out there that are as tough as nails and can fight phenomenally..but if you go to a boxing gym overall most of the people training there are tougher overall compared to your average dojo. Another reason for this is because a lot of people at boxing gyms fight in amature and sometimes pro circuits..a lot of people that train in Karate don't make a career out of competing in tournaments they do it for excercise and love for the art.