Japanese Jujutsu questions

[Zapatista]

Okay, so I'm looking for a martial art and as a student I'm limited to arts that are taught at the community college I attend. The classes offered are Aikido, Karate, Hapkido, Judo, and Jujutsu.

Now I want something that will cover both the ground game and standing. So I wanted to do Hapkido. (I realize that it is a chinese art and it's the wrong forum) But Hapkido has ground fighting and throws along with striking.

Now here's my question, I've heard that Jujutsu has striking with it but do most dojos teach striking in jujutsu? I would want it for self-defense and for confidence and not for sport, so I don't (at least I think I don't) want Brazilian Jujutsu. Are there specific schools of jujutsu that focus more on striking and then work on the ground game? I also say that there was a school that focused more on pressure points than the other parts of aiki.

Please help. I appreciate any positive feedback. Thanks for your time.

[JkD187]

bjj is not just for sport,bjj is essential for self defense but not to be used alone,you must have striking and wrestling and weapons fighting to be as prepared as you can be for the street.Based on the choices you have i would go with the art that trains the most realistic,by realistic i mean:they must do everything against a resisting opponent and it must be done with timing,energy,motion.JJJ uses a philophsy knows as completeness which basicly means being able 2 strike,grapple,use controlling techniques,weapons,disarms and so on.Lots of the moves in bjj are in JJJ plus they have some fine motor function like finer locks and so on.People dissmiss JJJ as being ineffective,however when trained like i stated above it will serve you more then well and help you to develop a complete game.I would chose the art that best suits using techniques against a resisting opponent and go with that art.

[Zapatista]

Well since my class is only for 1 semester (about 16 weeks) and meets once a week, I don't think that I would be able to get all of the Jujutsu (I'm pretty sure they teach Japanese instead of Brazilian but the class doesn't say) and with the Hapkido I'd probably get more complete-ness. Plus the 4-year college I plan to go to (Nothern Illinois University) has a Hapkido club that teaches it too, so more free training.

[LoneHusky]

Some BJJ guys I know are JJJ instructors. They're some tough sons of bitches.

[BoarSpear]

Some BJJ guys I know are JJJ instructors. They're some tough sons of bitches.

So what youre sayin is you know some JJJ instructors who absorbed the lessons to be learned from bjj and it greatly enhanced thier skill? that makes perfect sense and we all should seek to learn what the gjj,bjj,mma crowd has to offer and add it to our own arts to bring them up to date with what has been learned since thier appearance in the early 90's....

Jkd can be a pretty good core but add JUDO so you have the ability to throw add wrestling and bjj so you have an ability to ground fight when things dont work out right, as well as the ability to stop the takedown since if you train them you can learn to counter them

[LoneHusky]

So what youre sayin is you know some JJJ instructors who absorbed the lessons to be learned from bjj and it greatly enhanced thier skill? that makes perfect sense and we all should seek to learn what the gjj,bjj,mma crowd has to offer and add it to our own arts to bring them up to date with what has been learned since thier appearance in the early 90's....

Yes. I'm not implying BJJ is superior. I think people who think their art is superior are insecure about their art. I think bjj or jjj would compliment a spearman like yourself. You should keep an open mind. Early 90's isn't a bad thing.

[grey-ninja]

i would prefer to study japanese jujitsu over brazilian jujitsu, because brazilian jujitsu involves too many leg movements which allow for yur opponent to strike before you take a offensive , i studied brazilian jujitsu and it didnt help out in a fights compared to other martial arts .

[Hardball]

So I wanted to do Hapkido. (I realize that it is a chinese art and it's the wrong forum) But Hapkido has ground fighting and throws along with striking.

Hapkido is Korean.

[Hardball]

Some BJJ guys I know are JJJ instructors. They're some tough sons of bitches.

You've been around some tough neigborhoods.

[Hardball]

Now here's my question, I've heard that Jujutsu has striking with it but do most dojos teach striking in jujutsu? I would want it for self-defense and for confidence and not for sport, so I don't (at least I think I don't) want Brazilian Jujutsu. Are there specific schools of jujutsu that focus more on striking and then work on the ground game? I also say that there was a school that focused more on pressure points than the other parts of aiki.

Please help. I appreciate any positive feedback. Thanks for your time.

The only way you are going to be a complete fighter is to cross train in several systems or have instructors who have crossed trained. Most advanced martial artist acquire a black belt in a core system (any system) and then branch out and cross train as much as possible. Get your black belt, then attend as many seminars as you can afford or get a black belt in more than one style.

[Zapatista]

Hapkido is Korean.

Doh. I knew that I just mistyped. I went to a Korean school that offered Hapkido too, stupid me.

Anyways, after thinking about it, I think I'll try Hapkido. It is the most affordable (local community college offers it and then Northern Illinois University has a Hapkido "club" that offers belts too). Thanks for all of your respsonses.

[grey-ninja]

The only way you are going to be a complete fighter is to cross train in several systems or have instructors who have crossed trained. Most advanced martial artist acquire a black belt in a core system (any system) and then branch out and cross train as much as possible. Get your black belt, then attend as many seminars as you can afford or get a black belt in more than one style.

i disagree on this one because , i once studied akikdo very extensively and it conflicted with the techniques and stands i learned in other martial arts, they all come from one martial art that has been watered down and changed over time to form new forms like akikdo, hapkido, jujitsu and the list goes on , look into the logic and history of human self defense and then come to your own conclusion , i know which the answer, but thats for you to find out on yur own , each one person has there own opinion ...
ciao

[Hardball]

i disagree on this one because , i once studied akikdo very extensively and it conflicted with the techniques and stands i learned in other martial arts, they all come from one martial art that has been watered down and changed over time to form new forms like akikdo, hapkido, jujitsu and the list goes on , look into the logic and history of human self defense and then come to your own conclusion , i know which the answer, but thats for you to find out on yur own , each one person has there own opinion ...
ciao

You presented your argument in an intelligent and polite way. thus I have no beef with you. How would you compare the wrist locks and throws in akido vs wrist locks and throws in judo/japanese jutjitsu? I have an open mind and I wanna hear your opinion.

Bowing Out

[grey-ninja]

You presented your argument in an intelligent and polite way. thus I have no beef with you. How would you compare the wrist locks and throws in akido vs wrist locks and throws in judo/japanese jutjitsu? I have an open mind and I wanna hear your opinion.

Bowing Out

well in essence the body has particular movements based on orientation , foot work , skeletal system movements and general ranges of defensive and offensive , as you would probably believe , within the human arm there are over at least 60 things in which you can do with a human arm to lame a attacker , essentially there are the basics that are quick and painful, most martial arts, usually include blocking and subdueing techniques , dont you think there was once a type of martial arts that wasnt based on defensive/offensive, but getting the job done ? some date as far back as 800/1000 BC, but are not known much about , and often the history that is given is all wrong or are modern interpretations of the history and formation of a art .
a martial arts ,is a means of coping with the stress of life , through calmness and survival.

[LoneHusky]

i would prefer to study japanese jujitsu over brazilian jujitsu, because brazilian jujitsu involves too many leg movements which allow for yur opponent to strike before you take a offensive , i studied brazilian jujitsu and it didnt help out in a fights compared to other martial arts .

jjj has alot of leg movements.