opinions on aikijujitsu

[MILK DUD]

How effective is this art? is it difficult to learn?

[shadowkiller]

Its as effective as you make it. And it depends on how hard you train in it and how often. Anything can be effective or ineffective, it all depends on you.

Try it if you would like, thats the only way you will be able to make up your mind.

[Tant01]

How effective is this art? is it difficult to learn?

Aiki jujitsu....


Interesting but contradictory name.

The difference between Aiki and Ju is something to look into. The science of the jutsu is the same but there is a philosophical oxymoron if you look into it.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

Aiki jujitsu....


Interesting but contradictory name.

The difference between Aiki and Ju is something to look into. The science of the jutsu is the same but there is a philosophical oxymoron if you look into it.

How do you mean? As far as I've read/been taught "aiki" means something along the lines of "Harmonious spirit" (Ai being 'peace', 'love', or other various but related interpretations, and ki... well we all know ki) "ju" means gentle, and "jutsu" or "jitsu" means "art". So... "The art of the gentle and harmonious spirit"? "The art of the calm spirit" maybe? I know of course that the room the Japanese language leaves for implied meaning could mean I'm totally off, but I'm not ignorant to the language or martial arts terminology, and I don't see the contradiction. Also I would point out that Aikijujitsu and Aikijutsu are used interchangably when not referring to a specific school, so that would lead me to believe that the difference between aiki and ju is negligible.

[Tai Chi Fighter]

Iprefer Daito Ryu Aikijujustu myself.

[Tant01]

AKI And Ju?

How do you mean? As far as I've read/been taught "aiki" means something along the lines of "Harmonious spirit" (Ai being 'peace', 'love', or other various but related interpretations, and ki... well we all know ki) "ju" means gentle, and "jutsu" or "jitsu" means "art". So... "The art of the gentle and harmonious spirit"? "The art of the calm spirit" maybe? I know of course that the room the Japanese language leaves for implied meaning could mean I'm totally off, but I'm not ignorant to the language or martial arts terminology, and I don't see the contradiction. Also I would point out that Aikijujitsu and Aikijutsu are used interchangably when not referring to a specific school, so that would lead me to believe that the difference between aiki and ju is negligible.

Ah, I forget where I read this so don't quote me and I appologize in advance for not providing a source.

As I understand it the difference is subtle and mostly a slight philosophical difference


Aiki being to blend or harmonize with and Ju being to give way or yield, Where the aiki might redirect force via some attachment (blend, absorb or harmonize with it) the Ju would redirect the force by yielding or giving way.

That doesn't make much sense as Ju also is harmonious, blending and adapting. Aiki is older, more aggressive, offensive as opposed to defensive. Aiki is proactive, Ju reactive... One prefers weapons the other not...?

Wish I knew where I read this stuff< starting to doubt my memory here...


I'll look into it. (again)

[Tai Chi Fighter]

Thats funny...sorry...I could not help myself. I have a friend called Milk Dud.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

Ok tant, I think I see where you're coming from now. Now that you mention it I have heard the "yielding" translation of ju (as opposed to "gentle" which I mentioned earlier) but even in that context I understood it to be a kind of controlled yielding very similar to blending. That is to say, you don't oppose force with force but you don't just roll over either. To use the cliche old example of the sturdy oak that is blown over by a storm and the reed that bends in the wind to survive, it's that kind of yielding, a yielding with specific purpose.