People bash aikido but im interested...

[Kenpodog]

so your telling me that you could not get a BB with six months of individual lessons with a sensei?

My daughter has been training (about 5 days a week) for almost 5 years and is now almost eligible to test for her Jr. Black.
Ironically, she has a 6 month waiting period until her test, which is carried out over 3 days.
She trains as I do in American Kenpo.

6 months is a waiting period, not a training history!!

[Aikiguy]

so your telling me that you could not get a BB with six months of individual lessons with a sensei?

The USAF has these requirements:
(All hours reset from acquisition of last rank.)

5th Kyu: 60 hrs
4th Kyu: 80hrs
3rd Kyu: 100 hrs
2nd Kyu: 200 hrs
1st Kyu: 300 hrs
1st Dan: 400 hrs

Time to BB: 1140 hours.

Toronto Ki Society has:
(All hours reset from acquisition of last rank.)

5th Kyu: 30 hrs (at least 3 months)
4th Kyu: 30 hrs
3rd Kyu: 30 hrs
2nd Kyu: 50 hrs + 6 months after 3rd Kyu
1st Kyu: 50 hrs + 6 months after 2nd Kyu
1st Dan: 70 hrs

Time to BB: 260 hours, ~1.5 yrs.

For most people in the USAF, it takes about 7-8 years for a BB, assuming you practice 3X a week. For those who train harder & go to seminars, summer camp, etc., this time could theoretically be cut in half, but you'd have to train about 6-8 hours a week.

Realistically, it sounds like you could get your BB in about 2 years, if you practiced regularly where you are. It doesn't sound like they let people get their BB's sooner than about a year and a half. If your sensei waives this and trains you 10 hours a week, then it's theoretically possible.

My personal opinion is that they should have a few more hours for each rank, but if this works for them, then great.

[jubaji]

so your telling me that you could not get a BB with six months of individual lessons with a sensei? .

Oh man, what a farce. What's worse than a McDojo? Dojoke. You are describing a dojoke.

[shadowkiller]

so your telling me that you could not get a BB with six months of individual lessons with a sensei?

Not sure if you were aware but a BB in Aikido is considered beginner. That is when you start to actually learn most of the techniques and how to pull them off well.

Your journey to BB is basically just learning the basic movements and learning not to hurt Ukemi. A BB isn't really a huge accomplishment in a lot TMA's. It is just proving that you are ready to recieve the comprehensive teachings. I know this doesn't apply to BJJ for example. But it does for Aikido.

Again my friend have you ever studied Aikido in the toronto Ki society? Just asking, cause if you haven't there isn't much you can base anything on. If you haven't been there you do not know.

[jubaji]

I got a great deal for ya on a used bridge!

Nope...

Would like to actually do some research to back up crass comments like that?

Six months to earn a BB in Aikido and you think I'm out of line to call McDojo? You must be the biggest sucker of all time!

[shadowkiller]

Nope...

Would like to actually do some research to back up crass comments like that?

[jubaji]

I was told that if me and my friend kept training as much as we did we would have a BB in 6 months to a year. .

LOL

You want fries with that?

[shadowkiller]

I am just taking my info from my sensei. Are you a member of Ki society?

When training with Jason I was told that if me and my friend kept training as much as we did we would have a BB in 6 months to a year. At the time we were training only twice a week but we were the only two being taught by Sensei. So I guess what I was basing this on was me being given an individual lesson from my Sensei for 3 years. This usually wouldn't be the case but I was using my experience.

If you would like to check out his credentials

http://ki-aikido.net/KS-USA/Directory.html#Canada

Its the toronto Ki society and if I recall most of his training was done at the kingston Ki society under Bill Bickford Sensei. At the moment he trains a few times a year with Koichi Kashiwaya Sensei usually just during seminars.

Hes been doing Aikido for 9 years now and started training in Yoshinkan. Look if you don't believe me look it up. I was just going from what I was told ok.

But again the toronto Ki society is not a mcdojo.

[jubaji]

It usually takes 5-8 years for the BB in Aikido much less a 2nd you could not get a 2nd degree BB even at a McDojo or Mc Dojang in 3 years unless its mailorder

Why didn't I think of that?

[IPON]

In 3 years depending on how much time and effort you put into it you can have a 2nd degree BB.

It usually takes 5-8 years for the BB in Aikido much less a 2nd you could not get a 2nd degree BB even at a McDojo or Mc Dojang in 3 years unless its mailorder

[Tant01]

I think it's just Ju being Ju.


being Ju






being Ju

[Hikage]

Is there an echo?

[jubaji]

In 3 years depending on how much time and effort you put into it you can have a 2nd degree BB. .

Smells like McDojo.

[shadowkiller]

It was free so I know it wasn't a mcdojo. He was just trying to get off the ground as a school, he just has a few students one or two that have been training off and on in Ki society for about 8 years. they are not nearly as good as the Sensei. We only have 8 members so the only thing we end up paying for is helping the Sensei pay for tatami. The space we train at is in a chinese community centre downtown Toronto.

Its not a mcdojo though I know that at least. I have trained in a few of them, the worst being karate so far.

[jubaji]

In 3 years depending on how much time and effort you put into it you can have a 2nd degree BB. .

Smells like McDojo.