Most dangerous art

[Darkoato]

You see, that's why I LOVE these forums, cause everyone's a tough guy, and everyone likes treating newbies like shit. REally goes against the moral of martial arts, doesn't it? Helping others and being at peace with yourself. Not thinking anyone is lower than you because you are your own limit.

You know, if I remember correctly, bruce lee was incredibly aggressive, and he trained because he wanted to be the best. Didn't he get into numerous street fights?

Stop with the tough guy attitude.

[danfaggella]

Your right we all do smash people pretty fast.

I didn't mean to put a stamp on you but I wanted you to look at yourself, because how you came off sure sounded very much like the type of person I described. SamuraiGuy points that out.

Anyways, I think you just don't know what you are looking for, which isn't a bad thing considereing you have no expereince in the martial arts.

FIRST THING IS FIRST!!!!

-Understand what it is you want to study the martial arts for: Get in shape? Self defence? Armed self defence? To compete? To get a traditional expereince of moral and philosophical developement?

After that question is answered, I will offer what I can to help you pick and choose.

Ninjitsu and Kenpo are both TRADITIONAL martial arts, meaning they derrive a lot of training from KATA, or pre-arranged movements resembling fighting techniques. (Traditional as opposed to MODERN martial arts, which train primarily in a sportive manner, such as Brazilian Jujutsu, Muay Thai, Savate, Judo, ect...). I see a lot of BS in technique and ineffectiveness in training method with many traditional arts, though this is not alway the case.

This is a common thing in traditional arts, this is a Kenpo demonstration:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2656370098481791578&q=kenpo&pl=true

I don't like this, to me it is a bunch of guy throwing sloppy techniques and pretending to get hit, making loud noices and BS like that.

YOU are really going to have to do your homework, look at different martial arts, understand training methods, understand what you watn from martial arts, understand the aspects of the schools around you. Do your homework, good luck.

[BoarSpear]

You see, that's why I LOVE these forums, cause everyone's a tough guy, and everyone likes treating newbies like shit. REally goes against the moral of martial arts, doesn't it? Helping others and being at peace with yourself. Not thinking anyone is lower than you because you are your own limit.

You know, if I remember correctly, bruce lee was incredibly aggressive, and he trained because he wanted to be the best. Didn't he get into numerous street fights?

Stop with the tough guy attitude.

Basically your posts reek of immaturity, thats why people jump you...there is no deadliest art, just deadly people...asking how to become a super ninja by studying the "deadliest art" is well, not very well thought out.

Im pretty sure the "best" art to train in Siberia where people are larger and wear heavy clothing is not the best art for a little guy who lives in the phillipines to train...make sense?

The secret is the same everywhere and no matter the style you choose though, PRACTICE.

[Darkoato]

Lol, I know what you mean. That movie was pretty pathetic.

That's why I've stayed away from numerous arts. They looked as if you have to do an action for each and every action your oponent makes, and it always has to be perfect.

But we're not in a perfect world, and things happen unexpectedly. That's why I think actually street fighting (no rules, no bars, etc.) is more effective in some arts, simply because you're using your mind and body to take down an enemy, and with enough practice, will eventually become good in knowing what hurts people and what's good against what.

I guess what I mean is, a lot of these seminars I've gone to (TKD, boxing, etc>) they have shown what to do when something happens. If he throws a punch, block here, kicks here, move here. It all seems so drilled that it takes the essence out of human survival.

So that's why I turned to martial arts. I want to get a deeper understanding of what can be done to accomplish greatness, rather than just going off instinct. Sure instinct plays a huge part, but it's more or less training that gets you good at whatever you do.


but I can see why some traditional martial arts would be effective, such as being able to perform moves because of previous training, and able to pull them off no matter the situation (being able to adampt). I think solely relying on one art though would be pointless, because there's really no REAL way to fight.

So I think I just answered my own question. I have to look around and try different things and train, train, train! I guess what I wanted was a good start: some art that was of higher quality than others that I could really work at to get good with, and then branch off from there.

But to answer your above question, I can't really explain why I want to do the arts. I'm not in it to be able to defend myself, I'm not in it for competition, and I'm not in it to get in shape. I can't describe why i want to do it, but I feel attracted into doing something like this.

I want to get really good, and work at it for a long time.

Anyway, thanks for helping me out, I appreciate all your help

Jason

[Darkoato]

Immaturity? I hate when people judge you by the way you sound online. I have no prior experience, and don't know WHAT to ask.

After all, that's the point of questions.... right?

HOw on earth would I know there's no such thing as a deadly art? I think that was my reason for coming to a forum like this, since I don't have any help in my area. But thanks for the comment

People do martial arts in my area to get in shape and learn self defense, although no one seems to have the aggression to go forward and get good. So what's the deal with picking an art over something like Tai Chi?

[Tant01]

Do Judo... It will make you a better person. And it's fun!

[Darkoato]

ya, but would something like judo help you against a boxer? What if you can't get close, and his punches are flying at 100 miles an hour

[BoarSpear]

Immaturity? I hate when people judge you by the way you sound online. I have no prior experience, and don't know WHAT to ask.

Yeah, immature. You dont know jack sh## about the arts by your own admission, yet you want to learn the worlds deadliest art so you can beat up the worlds strongest man

After all, that's the point of questions.... right?

i dunno, entertainment seems to be common result of questions around here.

HOw on earth would I know there's no such thing as a deadly art? I think that was my reason for coming to a forum like this, since I don't have any help in my area. But thanks for the comment

Practicing an art, being in fights, READING the forum before asking dumb questions, any of those things would tell you there IS no deadliest art...otherwise EVERYONE would just practice that ONE art huh?

So what's the deal with picking an art over something like Tai Chi?

just not knowing any better i supppose...

[Tom Yum]

You see, that's why I LOVE these forums, cause everyone's a tough guy, and everyone likes treating newbies like shit. REally goes against the moral of martial arts, doesn't it? Helping others and being at peace with yourself. Not thinking anyone is lower than you because you are your own limit.

I think I'm pretty kind to the new guys.

You know, if I remember correctly, bruce lee was incredibly aggressive, and he trained because he wanted to be the best. Didn't he get into numerous street fights? Stop with the tough guy attitude.

Very European....U from Germany or Benelux region?

I don't have a tough guy attitude at all. Tough guy attitude doesn't bother me though.

[danfaggella]

I don't think he meant you exactly, everyone considers you to be a nice fellow.

[Darkoato]

Yeah, immature. You dont know jack sh## about the arts by your own admission, yet you want to learn the worlds deadliest art so you can beat up the worlds strongest man

Practicing an art, being in fights, READING the forum before asking dumb questions, any of those things would tell you there IS no deadliest art...otherwise EVERYONE would just practice that ONE art huh?
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Whatever dude. I never said anything about beating up strong me, but just keep on making things up. And thanks for the dumb questions remark. I'm sure that's why you're on a forum right? To ask your own dumb questions.

Or do you justnot have a life or don't train enough to get off the stupid internet and do soemthing useful.

And there are all types of people: many with different personalities. All arts don't suit everyone, that's why we have multiple ones.


I really don't know why I'm wasting my time on this forum. If you don't like what I'm posting, you don't have to say anything. Stop being a god damn liberal and let some things go. Not everyone wants your opinion.

Haha, I guess that's the only thing I can really come up with right now. Usually I can put up a pretty good fight, but to tell you the truth, I'm worn out. I really don't care what you think and don't have to waste time defending myself. People like you are a dime a dozen

It's just good to know though that you'd willingly spend time to harass me. Bored?

Go get fucked by some ****** you jew.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

ya, but would something like judo help you against a boxer? What if you can't get close, and his punches are flying at 100 miles an hour

Yes it would. If he's close enough to punch you, you're close enough to use judo.
I'll save you some time trying to figure it out on your own and let you know that one of the guys really worth listening to on this forum is Tant01. Of course, that's arrogant of me, because it assumes you believe that I'm worth listening to

[Tom Yum]

I really don't know why I'm wasting my time on this forum.

Why are you here?

If you don't like what I'm posting, you don't have to say anything. Stop being a god damn liberal and let some things go. Not everyone wants your opinion.
Go get fucked by some ****** you jew.

Watch your language.

[Tom Yum]

well I came here in hopes for some answers, but since some people are complete assholes, I think it's time to do what I do best: say "**** off" and leave before it turns into a war.

You came in with an immature attitude....

Happens a lot you know, just the temptation of other people to better themselves over others. And they call themselves martial artists.

Lick my balls porchmonkey

...looks like you'll be leaving with one too.

If you're going to throw a punch, expect to get punched back.

[BoarSpear]

Whatever dude. I never said anything about beating up strong me, but just keep on making things up. And thanks for the dumb questions remark. I'm sure that's why you're on a forum right? To ask your own dumb questions.

thanks for playing dorkoato...read your own post below...

Yes, but which is the best?

There has to be some sort of martial art that's better than others. LIke ifyou were going to fight the strongest man in the world, what art would you pick?

Go get fucked by some ****** you jew.

HEHEHE so you're a thin skinned racist punk troll huh? Oh well it takes all kinds
of morons to fill death row

Oh BTW welcome to nutters buddy list....