Samurai Vs. Spartans

[ScottUK]

Awesome thread. I give it 5 stars.

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

And the enormous numerical advantage that you spoke of may be true, but to sweep across a continent and conquering nation after nation, those numbers represent those who weren't prepared, not the number of those who were victims in the conflicts. There weren't more Mongols than there were people all over Asia. There weren't more Zulus than there were people in Africa. There weren't more Moors than there were Europeans. This all means that the conquerors were just smart enough to make sure that there numbers were stronger from battle to battle, but there numbers were never larger overall.

That's nothing special to the Mongols, Moors or Zulus though. If your army had to outnumber the entire population of the land you eventually wished to conquer, there would never be an invasion, but nummerical superiority in every individual battle is in effect just as good.

And anyway, it's kinda apples and oranges. The Samurai and the Spartans you think of when you hear the word never made up the majority of the armies of Japan or Sparta respectively. They were elite forces. Did the three groups you're talking about have something comparable, a creme de la creme? That would be an interesting comparison.

[jubaji]

Did the three groups you're talking about have something comparable, a creme de la creme? That would be an interesting comparison.

I'm afraid you're not going to get very far asking pUke about history. Its not his strong point. However, if you are looking for someone to repeat himself, well then he's your man!

[SamuraiGuy]

And SamuraiGuy, the Zulus did in fact eventually succumb to the superior firepower of the Europeans, but make no mistake in ever thinking that it was ever in hand to hand combat. The defeat of the Zulus was a decisive victory won by firepower, not infantry.

Did I ever claim anything different?

I didnt think the english challenged them to "throw hands" and see who would win.

I just stated they won. And in awesome fashion with such a disadvantage in man power.

[Tom Yum]

And I'm still victorious after a night of burritos!

[Shoot]

Definitely the Spartens. Didn't you see the movie, 300? Those guys were in good shape. Compare that to that Tom Cruise movie where he became a Samurai--not in as good shape. lol

[Albert]

Well, in 300, the spartanz fought the immortalz who were like samurai, and beat the crap outta them. But im pretty sure chuck norris could beat the samurai and the spartans at the same time, with his eyes closed.

[ScottUK]

I love your post. It drools of sanity.

[suhieb]

Well, in 300, the spartanz fought the immortalz who were like samurai, and beat the crap outta them. But im pretty sure chuck norris could beat the samurai and the spartans at the same time, with his eyes closed.

The film 300 is based on a comic book which is based on the actual historical event in which there is very ,limited information on etc..... but i have to agree with you about Chuck Norris beating them both with his eyes closed

Chuck Norris FTW

[aku aku]

Bundy's a brown belt in BJJ.

And I'm just wondering how the American Indian should be a more respected fighting force than the Spartans or Samurai. Which insurmountable odds did they overcome, which great battles did they win, how many invasions did they stop, etc...

Plus everyone knows the english kicked the Zulu's ass.

Look up Geronimo, he and his warriors were pretty badass. It's been argued that they were some of the greatest guerilla fighters in history.

[darrianation]

Spartans WIN! The movie is kick-ass!