What Do You Think Of Akido?

[ScottUK]

Since then I have seen a couple of Aikido people at SENI, relative martial art fairs and gyms. They have been exceptionally poor.

I have to say I always enjoyed David Rubens' aiki (Yoshinkan trained in Japan) demo at SENI - very nice stuff, aggressive and dynamic. No 'students flying through the air under their OWN steam' with that guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_OjcQtN_TM

[Red Rum]

Not at all - the guys I was with asked me to try and get out of it. I wasn't even trying that hard.

When I train, I train sensibly and I am always keen to learn things about martial arts. I would never try to make things difficult for a martial artist (trying to catch them out etc) unless they asked me to.

Admittedly this is one of the only times I have seen Aikido (I did attend a class once, but it looked amateurish, so it's not a good example).

Everyone I have spoken to on the Aikido subject have said that it doesn't show you anything that you can't learn through other arts

[Red Rum]

I don't know what NHB stands for, so please forgive me.

As for the demo. They asked me to grab their arms. It wasn't like I was holding them as hard as I could or trying to be difficult. I grabbed them in a normal way and they couldn't handle it. In wing chun demos, I ask students to throw in a punch and it could be a hook, straight punch, low punch etc.

I asked them to show me defences against grabs - I asked what they would do if I grabbed them. And they didn't come up with an answer

It just wasn't at all impressive.

[Red Rum]

My disappointing experience with Aikido was this. Two friends of mine who claim to be high ranking Aikido practitioners (I truly hope they were lying) were training with me and I asked about Aikido. They said that I should grab their arm. I did. They then said 'No, no, no' grab me like this or it won't work. (!!!!)
I grabbed them like they said and they tried to twist my arm. I just folded my arm (using wing chun) and they couldn't do anything.

They then tried to do another move by holding my arm behind my back (like a bouncers grip). Again I turned round and relaxed my arm and they couldn't do anything.

Since then I have seen a couple of Aikido people at SENI, relative martial art fairs and gyms. They have been exceptionally poor. They are okay at close quarter clinch work but rely on the attacker doing certain things and in certain situations

There are far better arts out there (ie if I want a clinch use BJJ. If you want to throw someone use Judo. And as for striking - just train boxing)

Segal has doen martial arts other than Aikido including karate, judo and kendo. I know he has doen a lot of weaponry work as well. Also, if you have done any martial art for as long as he has, than you had better be good or you'd be a laughing stock!

[jubaji]

LOL! So it seems!

[The_Judo_Jibboo]

Well, didn't take long to lose that resolve...

come one jubaji, you know that on the internet it's no fun ignoring someone unless you frequently remind them just how rigorously you are ignoring them.

[jubaji]

Well, didn't take long to lose that resolve...

[ScottUK]

<ignore>wanker above</ignore>

[jubaji]

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'bout time, now stfu.

[ScottUK]

Another name comes to mind...

I have just been reading some of your other posts. The cheese has definitely slid off your cracker, fella.

I guess I am done responding to you.

[jubaji]

I thought his name was Scott?

Another name comes to mind...

[Tom Yum]

I thought his name was Scott?

[jubaji]

Gosh, I hope I'm not letting you down.

[ScottUK]

I often do.

Do you have anything that benefits this board?

[jubaji]

I thought you were wasting your breath?