More newaza. Combination technique

[DickHardman]

another variation of the choke...


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEA0W9BzRuo[/YOUTUBE]

[DickHardman]

look at the end of this match...

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjlTYfNyT68[/YOUTUBE]


same choke, but he grabs the leg differently. the leg is grabbed simply for leverage, you can see how it helps it bend his opponents neck. its also to prevent escape. this is why the leg is grabbed in the same manner when applying some armbars, prevents the guys hips from moving and not allowing him any escape.

[Hardball]

Cool.........................

[DickHardman]

I realize the neck is being cranked, I always did. You must not understand the mechanics of the hip because that girls hip is out of it's normal range of motion thus causing extreme pain in the hip as well as the neck. The unofficial name for that hip lock is the "Bannana Split"

even still, its the choke that causes the tap. people dont tap from that technique because of hip pain, they tap because of neck pain and not being able to breathe. the leg is grabbed simply to enhance the choke. i disagree with it being a hip lock. the more your hip is extended like that, the tighter the pressure on your throat and neck becomes.

[Hardball]

the hip is not being attacked, though. if you get put in that move, and you dont tap out, you are not gonna have a broken hip, you are going to pass out and possibly have an injured neck. the leg is grabbed to prevent the dude from squirming around and escaping, while at the same time providing superior leverage for the person applying the choke. people tap out to that technique cause they cant breathe, not because their hip is locked or attacked. grabbing on to that leg allows you to bend the opponents neck at an extreme angle.

I realize the neck is being cranked, I always did. You must not understand the mechanics of the hip because that girls hip is out of it's normal range of motion thus causing extreme pain in the hip as well as the neck. The unofficial name for that hip lock is the "Bannana Split"

[DickHardman]

Look at the position of the hip; it is very painful thus the hip is locked. I agree about the choke also thus it is both a choke and a hip lock.

the hip is not being attacked, though. if you get put in that move, and you dont tap out, you are not gonna have a broken hip, you are going to pass out and possibly have an injured neck. the leg is grabbed to prevent the dude from squirming around and escaping, while at the same time providing superior leverage for the person applying the choke. people tap out to that technique cause they cant breathe, not because their hip is locked or attacked. grabbing on to that leg allows you to bend the opponents neck at an extreme angle.

[Hardball]

Can we say "combination technique"?



Thanks guys!

Yea, like a arm bar combined with a wrist lock. ( Chicken wing)

[Tant01]

Can we say "combination technique"?



Thanks guys!

[Hardball]

its not a hip lock lol. its bow n arrow choke, the leg is grabbed to tighten the choke and make it more painful for the person recieving it. dont know the judo name. has many variations.

this one here

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9889/7f8fb7c0su8.jpg

Look at the position of the hip; it is very painful thus the hip is locked. I agree about the choke also thus it is both a choke and a hip lock.

[DickHardman]

its not a hip lock lol. its bow n arrow choke, the leg is grabbed to tighten the choke and make it more painful for the person recieving it. dont know the judo name. has many variations.

this one here

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9889/7f8fb7c0su8.jpg

[Hardball]

You don't see too many hip locks these days.

[Tant01]

I see it now... No choke... Just a hip lock! My bad.

THANKS KINDLY HB.

[Hardball]

Her hip was locked also.

[Tant01]

Lip lock...(?) those two girls weren't kissing HB...

LOL The intro calls it the arm bar....

She clearly had both arms free and used one to tap out...

From a choke. What's the name of it?

Really, that's all I'm looking for. Gyaku-Juji-Jime? (Half cross?) or some variation... Seems like a bit much torque to be good judo but it worked.





Thanks kindly.

[Hardball]

Looks like a hip lock?