More newaza. Combination technique

[DickHardman]

Dickhardman should be able to tell us if that was personal.

david has spoken about similar incidents in the past. this is actually a very common occurrence in judo/jiu jitsu matches at high levels, and especially in judo because it is so competitive. the reason you arent supposed to let go till the referee stops you is because if you release before the ref steps in, your opponent may be able to deny tapping out if the referee didnt get a clear view. this is why they hold on. people in these tournaments get injured regularly, mostly due to bad referees. also, i know for a fact that some people enjoy injuring their opponents on purpose. i had a very well known, and very accomplished judoka who coached the olympic team tell me str8 up that he has broken peoples arms in judo tournaments simply because he felt like it. make no mistake about it, competing in judo/jiu jitsu tournaments is dangerous. even at lower levels, we had a guy who trains with us get his arm broken completely in half from a bicep slicer instantly, that move isnt even allowed in jiu jitsu tournaments. the dude went into shock and was out of training for like a year. by entering a judo/jiu jitsu tournament you run a pretty decent risk of getting injured, thats the bottom line.

[Hardball]

There is something to be said for SPORTSMANSHIP at any level. ESPECIALLY that so called BLACK belt. The gung ho crank it fast and hard is fine if you don't like the guy. I still think there's a lesson here. Control? Patience? Submission Vs. Destruction? I'd like to know if the guy needed surgery to fix his elbow?

Dickhardman should be able to tell us if that was personal.

[Tant01]

No one said he should let go the hold... (hell NO!) but he don't need to make the man cry either....

There is something to be said for SPORTSMANSHIP at any level. ESPECIALLY that so called BLACK belt. The gung ho crank it fast and hard is fine if you don't like the guy. I still think there's a lesson here. Control? Patience? Submission Vs. Destruction? I'd like to know if the guy needed surgery to fix his elbow?

[Hardball]

Oh. Still, do verbal submissions count? The guy sounded like he was hollering all the way over.

He is supposed to hollar the word Matee!!! I agree with Dick. At the Black Belt level, cranking his arm was legit. Plus it happened so fast, the ref didn't have time to intervene.

[Hardball]

It's the Gi...

BJJ really is JUDO. LOL

Newaza that is!! BJJ spends much more time perfecting ground techniques. I still prefer Judo/JJJ.

[Tant01]

I think that was a Judo Tourney.

It's the Gi...

BJJ really is JUDO. LOL

[Hardball]

Wasn't the guy screaming? Do verbal submissions not count in BJJ tournaments?

I think that was a Judo Tourney.

[Tant01]

your not supposed to let go till the referee stops you. thats just how it goes when you are competing at that level. maybe the referee should have stopped it sooner??

You're supposed to CONTROL the opponent and give him time to submit, Not trying to rip his arm off until the ref steps in.

Kind of goes with the uniform. There is no need or reason to inflict serious trauma. It's a game. I can understand wanting to get the submission, being a little excited in the heat of the moment but he tweaked that guys arm on purpose. His humility display at the end was apologetic... He did wrong. He knows it. Does he boast of it too?

[DickHardman]

eh,..... not much. (?) He was a bit rough with his submission. They need a DQ rule for excessive force. IT'S A GAME. No need to torque his elbow that hard. IMHO...(bad Judo) Especially if he was expected to compete again later.

Nice sweep though... Fast feet!

your not supposed to let go till the referee stops you. thats just how it goes when you are competing at that level. maybe the referee should have stopped it sooner??

[Tant01]

Hurt his opponent...

what do you think of this match tanto? this is my sensei in the black.

eh,..... not much. (?) He was a bit rough with his submission. They need a DQ rule for excessive force. IT'S A GAME. No need to torque his elbow that hard. IMHO...(bad Judo) Especially if he was expected to compete again later.

Nice sweep though... Fast feet!

[DickHardman]

what do you think of this match tanto? this is my sensei in the black.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R602yHp4nuQ[/YOUTUBE]

[DickHardman]

Judo Ne-Waza HL (by Yukiore)

Another fun one! ENJOY!

the music in that video is awesome.


the newaza was good too.

[Tant01]

Judo Ne-Waza HL (by Yukiore)

Another fun one! ENJOY!

[Tant01]

YouTube - Kansetsu-Waza

Old school.... Did I post this already?

[Hardball]

Cool........................