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  • #31
    Many things can be related to moral aspects. Especially since morality and motivation are closely related.

    Problem is, many people look at morality too much in terms of a set of rules that have little relation to the human experience.
    Morality is a huge part of the human experience, and much of what is attributed to "bad" things have (throughout time and culture) lead to hurtful, harmful, uncompassionate, violent, uneducated, aspects of humanity. Ethics can be very very scientific. But that's another thread.

    It's interesting to note that Bruce talked quite a bit about what he called "physical morality" and stated that it was quite possible to "prove"something right or wrong, however to do so required a deep understanding of the situation, the moral itself, the aspects surrounding it, etc.

    But I digress!
    You can use the JKD philosophy on many aspects of the human experience.....
    But too many people don't like to do much except argue extremes until they're blue in the face.

    Heh heh, I digress again.

    Ryu

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    • #32
      One thing is for sure. Besides training, he ran daily and running and smoking dosn't mix well.

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      #33
      well, yes but...

      you might be confusing the data for smoking tobacco products with the data for smoking marijuana products. Keep in the mind, the smoke in the two is not at all the same, being that they aren't at all the same plants.

      And therefore, its not so hard to see its possible they don't have the same effect on lungs at all.

      For instance, in early industrial England, hemp was smoked to purge the smoke and soot of factory stacks from the lungs. Tobacco would not work for this.

      Smoking marijuana is also not done in the same manner as smoking cigarrettes. Cigarettes are generally smoked throughout the day at regular intervals. Marijuana is more often an event that occurs at most nightly, for many people.for many others only weekly. Far less than one cigarette worth of smoke is usually taken in at a sitting, and again, for many people in a whole night.

      It simply is not the same product.

      But, having said ALL that, I will agree with you. Smoking and performance based running are not going to help each other. However, the two are not necessarily going to be diametric opposites and cancel each other out, either.

      Black and white thinking will give one a black and white life.

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      • #34
        Bruce Lee never used drugs, it is just wat they say, a roumour nothing more nothing less

        He died because of brain haemmorage [sorry I got really bad spells] as simple as that. It was just like a time bomb waiting to explode

        |Mayur|

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        • #35
          Re: well, yes but...

          [QUOTE]Originally posted by quietanswer
          [B]you might be confusing the data for smoking tobacco products with the data for smoking marijuana products. Keep in the mind, the smoke in the two is not at all the same, being that they aren't at all the same plants.

          And therefore, its not so hard to see its possible they don't have the same effect on lungs at all.

          For instance, in early industrial England, hemp was smoked to purge the smoke and soot of factory stacks from the lungs. Tobacco would not work for this.

          Smoking marijuana is also not done in the same manner as smoking cigarrettes. Cigarettes are generally smoked throughout the day at regular intervals. Marijuana is more often an event that occurs at most nightly, for many people.for many others only weekly. Far less than one cigarette worth of smoke is usually taken in at a sitting, and again, for many people in a whole night.
          xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

          Sounds like you've smoked a few!

          Of course I did and I've run after smoking it too. If you try it, use a treadmill, its a lot easier than the street!!

          I'm been clean for a long time now, but it is a funny topic. Actually after about 15 minutes or so your lungs do clear up quite a bit.

          But theres no comparison to having clean lungs to start with!!
          Last edited by JKJKD; 01-14-2003, 09:22 PM.

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          • #36
            Media HYPE .. .......... He probably smoked once or twice for the same reasons pretty much everyone has tried it once or twice (Although I havent smoking is the devil .. I like cake though > ). And the media blew it out of proportion.

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            • #37
              SMoking herb helps with inflamation, muscle tension, and with the central nervous system. So it woulnt be that deteriamental to his training. But the effects are different when eaten with little benefit to training. Buddhism has many uses of cannabis. I think Bruce smoked HAsh though to minimize the amout of smoke he had to inhale.

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                • #38
                heh

                I think its funny how people want to take their heroes and transfer their own belief system onto them.

                What's the deal with that?

                "I hate pot, so bruce lee did too! Ninja's put that pot in his belly because he wouldn't make movies for the secret cartel!!! I swear! I saw it!"

                or

                "I love pot, so bruce lee must have been just as "hip"! Really MAN! (taking bong hit, holding, blowing) Seriously. The thc gave him crazy intuition and he could forecast punches before the puncher was even BORN!!! "



                Work on your game, find a way to pass your time, and quit worrying about what bruce lee did.

                If you want to know whether bruce lee used pot or not, give it a try.

                If you think it helps your game, you can decide "he must have"..
                If you think it doesn't, you can decide "he never did"..

                And if you're really smart, you'll go hit the heavy bag or wrestle some miscreant instead.

                Cause life is way, way too short to waste time trying to figure out what some dead guy thought.

                And, though it's contradictory to my instructions, I'll throw in that Bruce would probably agree with this idea.

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                • #39
                  Originally posted by Underdog
                  Actually his death was traced to an allergic reaction to a pill similar to aspirine, that he used to alleviate flu synthoms
                  This is the story I've heard from most reliable sources (i.e. books, articles and interviews by people who were there working with him that day). I have understood some of the mystery was because Lee was with a girlfriend other than his wife, possibly a paid one too and that was something to be kept hidden. Also it was rumoured the evening contained some pot smoking.

                  The story goes that he got a bad headache and asked for aspirin. The woman only had some painkiller pills she had gotten with a prescription for herself. The pill is a prescription drug because some people are allergic to it. Lee was. He went to sleep and never woke up. I remember seeing the death certificate in some book years ago and the reason of death was allergic complications including swelling of brain tissue (and haemmorage).

                  This is all just "book knowledge" but usually I've thought the source was someone who was there, and the other theories I've only heard from sources who didn't have that much to do with Lee's everyday life or on-the-set life at all.

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                  • #40
                    This is a very interesting thread, But I dont think Bruce would have taked the likes of cocaine either. He valued his physical condition too much to do that. Not everyone would have smoked pot in the 70's.
                    Ill have to admit in Enter te Dragon he has like the perfect physique small and muscular,

                    We love you bruce and thankyou.

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                      • #41
                      propaganda

                      I think its weird that people are so ready to believe what they see on t.v.

                      Television has become like a parent in that we tend to just trust it.

                      I have enjoyed marijuana on and off for a while now.

                      It hasn't destroyed my life at all. On the contrary, I'm a straight "A" engineering student, I exercise more than most anyone I deal with on a day to day basis, and I show a lot of love in my habits and reactions.

                      I can't fathom why everyone buys into the "drugs are all the same drug, and all drugs are bad" thing.

                      I guess some people live based on personal experience, and some people prefer hearsay and dogma. (shrug)
                      Of course, just my opinion...no need to crucify my ass or anything.

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