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    muay thai question

    I posted this in the Thaiboxing forum, but since I know a lot of the JKD people do crosstrain in muay thai - here goes:

    Do you thai boxing guys train kicks targeted at the head?

    ALso - do you all do spinning elbow attacks?

    How practical are these on the street?

    Is is better to block a round kick to the ribs with your shin or with your elbows/forearms?
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  • #2
    I do train head kicks...nice for KO's!

    In the ring...head kicks...go ahead and throw them...

    In the street...RISKY....too much can happen to you if you miss....Take downs etc..
    If your kicks are lightining fast...you can try..But i'd still not advise a head kick in a street situation..too telegraphed....Even in the ring...I would only ever throw a high kick if I was about 80% sure it would hit. e.g if my opponents hands were down from fatigue or right after a punch combo...


    Spinning elbows...forget about these...
    Elbow attacks are great ..but spinning ones wouldn't work in the street...unless you were wasting your time fighting an idiot..

    About blocking the round kick to the ribs...I dont really think there is a better way to do it....just matters if you block it or not!...
    I like to use my knee to destroy the kick..


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    • #3
      I personally do not train head kicks, but that's just me. I'm personally just that much better with my hands that I prefer to use kicks as only a supplamentary tool, often times to set up a knockout punch. Maybe if the opponent was bending over from fatigue or a slip or something I would go for it but other than that I'd prefer to buckle his legs with a round kick then punch the crap out of him while he's trying to recover.

      Spinning elbow attacks? I don't train any spinning moves. As a general rule I don't turn my back on my opponent if I can help it. But I've seen at least 3 KO's via spinning backfist which seems impractical so I guess its up to the individual.

      I totally agree with Bau13 on the blocking issue.

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      #4
      I don't train head kicks. why? cause I know too many wrestlers, and have wrestled, and know most scrappers have as well.

      in the ring, I don't train them either. why? because I've seen men extremely talented with hands take on men EXTREMELY talented with their feet. the hands PUNISH those guys. sure..mismatched talent may change things..but I concentrate on the hands and lowline kicks.

      A wrestler is looking for an oppurtunity to shoot in. If you lift one leg to kick, he's going to shoot in. What's that mean? well..

      a: he ducks the kick..so you don't hit him..he could just stop here

      b: he takes you down to the ground. all those kicking and boxing skills are now stripped away..

      It's one of those cases when the defensive action just happens to be an offensive one too..

      that's just my view on it though..

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      • #5
        great stuff,great reason's for and against and good questions.
        the answer is yes thai boxers do target the head. they do not limit themselves to specific targets because it would be to easy to block if he knew you were just going to hit the legs or ribs. also, if you train it right, you don't decide to kick the head, it just happens, he's open and the next thing you know your leg just flew up there and hit him. darndest thing. so with the right timing and training it works. would i do it on the street, again if things were perfect and he was open, i wouldn't even think about it, the leg would decide all on it's own.
        spinning elbows, i agree with everyone else, spinning is risky but can with training be effective, as one of my instructors said, "yeah it's hard to do that's why you've got to train hard."
        blocking round kicks to the ribs, footwork my friend, footwork, after that intercept it with a footjab, after that cutkick, after that angle off and hook or cross, after that catch it, after that destroy it, after that shield it. there is a method to it that has a progression of priority.
        hope this helps.
        harley

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        • #6
          Do you thai boxing guys train kicks targeted at the head?

          yep. Probably don't throw them nearly as much as you would low kicks, but if you see the opportunity it is a very powerful attack.


          ALso - do you all do spinning elbow attacks?

          Been shown the technique...don't like it much though. Can only see it used as a recovery when the guy is driving you back at your angle.

          How practical are these on the street?

          too risky, IMO

          Is is better to block a round kick to the ribs with your shin or with your elbows/forearms?

          dunno which is better...I tend to use the shield just because it sets me up to do a countering kick as i put my foot back down.

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          • #7
            >>Is is better to block a round kick to the ribs with your shin or with your elbows/forearms?

            I prefer to use my arms to absorb the kick if necessary. I use the legs to deal with attacks below the waist, my arms for attacks to the torso, and the hand area (i.e.-parry, cover) for attacks to the head. Personal preferance I guess, but I think it kind of keeps the defense "tighter". And I think there is an advantage to doing it this way when fighting NHB/street and taledowns are more of a factor.

            JMO..
            ~Kev

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