I need advice on how to start JEET KUNE DO

[ecamd1025]

Yes i recommend you get the books and. Remember training is important. read krishnamurti as well if you are interested in psychology. Also read keith pascals book on locks. There are videeos there if you purchase the book you can get for like 3 for 59.95 which is nice and they are from one of bruces students. They are at the end of the book. Take care

[ecamd1025]

Hey

If your doing that then your just adding to a n existing system which itself is not free, but narrow minded so your not learning but accumulating only. You are still a style pretending not to be. Speaking metaaphorically

wait wait. isnt jkd NOT supposed to be an art or style? wasnt this exactly what bruce didnt want, for "jkd" to be looked at as an art? i thought it was just a set of concepts that can be applied to any martial art. as long as u train in something, and apply those techniques that is jkd isnt it? i do mt/boxing, bjj, and judo, but doesnt that make me a jkd practitioner? im blending techniques from diff arts, and retaining the things that work best for me from these arts. u could be training in tkd and be a jkd practioner right? is it really that much of a style now, or does being openminded and using jkd's concepts in your training enough to make u a jkd practitioner? or do u have to have the wing chun style trapping and punching, and most of your weight on your front leg when u fight in order to be a considered a practitioner of jkd?

[Tant01]

Intercepting way

wait wait. isnt jkd NOT supposed to be an art or style? wasnt this exactly what bruce didnt want, for "jkd" to be looked at as an art? i thought it was just a set of concepts that can be applied to any martial art. as long as u train in something, and apply those techniques that is jkd isnt it? i do mt/boxing, bjj, and judo, but doesnt that make me a jkd practitioner? im blending techniques from diff arts, and retaining the things that work best for me from these arts. u could be training in tkd and be a jkd practioner right? is it really that much of a style now, or does being openminded and using jkd's concepts in your training enough to make u a jkd practitioner? or do u have to have the wing chun style trapping and punching, and most of your weight on your front leg when u fight in order to be a considered a practitioner of jkd?

Here's my take on it... everyone else has tried? Are you using economical techniques to intercept the attacking technique? Are you comfortable in the different "ranges" and able to use techniques appropriate for each?
Do you understand the concepts and apply them in your training? Economy of motion, intercepting the attack, comfort at all ranges... sounds like JKD to me? But then I'm not really a Jeet Kune Do man... I've studied a bit and trained with a certified associate instructor but I'm not qualified to say what it is, I only know some things that it is NOT.

I relate it to Japanese concepts of sen no sen and sen sen no sen... taking the initiative and keeping it, almost like you react to the attack before they attack... intercepting or attacking during their preparation to attack... That's my JKD

[EmptyneSs]

Here's my take on it... everyone else has tried? Are you using economical techniques to intercept the attacking technique? Are you comfortable in the different "ranges" and able to use techniques appropriate for each?
Do you understand the concepts and apply them in your training? Economy of motion, intercepting the attack, comfort at all ranges... sounds like JKD to me? But then I'm not really a Jeet Kune Do man... I've studied a bit and trained with a certified associate instructor but I'm not qualified to say what it is, I only know some things that it is NOT.

I relate it to Japanese concepts of sen no sen and sen sen no sen... taking the initiative and keeping it, almost like you react to the attack before they attack... intercepting or attacking during their preparation to attack... That's my JKD

well boxing and mt teach you to intercept the fist as an important part of fighting. in fact, the concept of intercepting the fist is the basis of boxing, and to some extent mt. isnt that what you are doing everytime you parry an opponents shot? you are literally intercepting their fist, as to deflect its path away from its intended target. the parry/intercepting of the fist can then be fallowed up with a counter attack. this theory of fighting is the bases of boxing and mt, and is a very efficient way to fight. the chinese have a similar philosphy dont they, that your opponent will help you defeat himself. isnt this what they meant? does that mean im a practitioner of jkd since i literally use my ma to intercept fists?

it looks as if jkd is ineed its own art, with its own recognizable traits like the switching of stances, the lead leg supporting most of the weight, and the wing chun/kali style trapping.

another thing ive been wondering about is being "formless". if u notice, alot of martial arts are effective because of the "form" they enable your body to take. for example, the mt stance can offer a lot of protection. when i spar people, or if i was to get into a fight, i couldnt just be formless. id get killed. in order to fight back and defend myself effectively, i have to take a certain form. boxing, mt,jkd, bjj, all teach you to assume some kind of physical form in order for it to be effective. it seems like taking a certain form can be vital. what do you guys think about this?

[jeff5]

another thing ive been wondering about is being "formless". if u notice, alot of martial arts are effective because of the "form" they enable your body to take. for example, the mt stance can offer a lot of protection. when i spar people, or if i was to get into a fight, i couldnt just be formless. id get killed. in order to fight back and defend myself effectively, i have to take a certain form. boxing, mt,jkd, bjj, all teach you to assume some kind of physical form in order for it to be effective. it seems like taking a certain form can be vital. what do you guys think about this?

Its because having no form doesn't mean having No Form. Meaing that its fine to use a form or whatever to defend yourself, as long as you know its strengths and limitations and are willing and able to switch out of it if the situation dictates. All that formlessness means is that you should not be bound by one form or the other.

[Tant01]

Formlessness = "outside the box"

Try not to get caught up in the definitions of form or no form.

I use concrete as an example. It needs a form to harden into a useful shape. JKD is freeformed cement.

It hardens without a form of any kind, only a skeleton structure to begin it's shape. once the skeleton framework is in place you can make it ANY shape you like. The skelatal framework is never the same from one to the next unlike traditional Karatedo or other art. they want the old wooden forms around every new student.


Maybe you'll get it, or not... JKD is not for everyone.

[shen lao]

If You Really Want To Grow Internaly And Externaly Then, Research Your Own Reactions And Preferences. Only A Multiphasic Approach To Training Through Introspection And Retrospection Will Provide You With That Which You Seek. Remember That Bruce Was A Finger Pointing Towards The Moon. Don't Focus Purely On The Finger Or You'll Miss All The Heavenly Glory Beyond. If You Are To Truly Study, Then Study Every Style You Can, Learning All The Concepts Of Which The Style Is Based On, And How To Destroy It. That Includes Jkd. Above All Explore Your Own Spontaneous Reflexive Response In A Dynamic Setting. If You Get Back To Me I'll Send You My Nexus, Which Is Really My Own Exploration Through 37 Systems. --shen Lao