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  • #16
    Originally posted by Demi Barbito
    """You know its wrong to diss other martial arts wether they are actually bad or not. """

    It's not wrong to tell the truth.


    """How was the holster secured?"""

    It has a metal clip that attaches to the waistband.

    Demi
    ah so it can be seen by everyone else...maybe its not so good for casual wear ...minus 5 points

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    • #17
      No it cannot. It's an IWB nylon concealment holster. It can be worn with shorts and a t Shirt and it does not profile alt all.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Demi Barbito
        No it cannot. It's an IWB nylon concealment holster. It can be worn with shorts and a t Shirt and it does not profile alt all.
        Where does the clip ride then? The clip has to go over your belt right? Then the CLIP shows ...The pager pal uses a pager or cell phone for the clip..so there is nothing to see...and you can draw from a seated position. with the pp you can tuck your shirt in and still acess the weapon without the clip showing...or wear it to the beach with no shirt at all...a weapon you cant carry everywhere does you no good.

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        • #19
          I hate pager pals. Personal preference. I can and do carry the weapon everywhere, and have for years, with no trouble at all.

          Demi

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Demi Barbito
            I hate pager pals. Personal preference. I can and do carry the weapon everywhere, and have for years, with no trouble at all.

            Demi

            really? youre the first dude I ever heard that from...well not true... some really obese people cant get the weapon out from underneath the fat rolls.

            Most women find it uncomfortable due to the short length of the holster itself, they have a different hip structure so its uncomfortable to sit in tight jeans while wearing it

            Whats your beef with it? Ever talk to Steve about customizing one for you?

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            • #21
              It's more equipment (holster) than I need.

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              • #22
                Really.
                equipment holster than I need is?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Demi Barbito
                  It's more equipment (holster) than I need.

                  ah, a statement that few on this board can make

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                  • #24
                    You are an idiot. You can't even say "self defense". You have to make up some "self preservation" shit to make your new shit sound all cool and effective. Tell the truth? Yeah, I agree your style is the most efffective and untouchable . Do you know why? You have a gun. it's called "the art of shooting"

                    Dumbass.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Demi Barbito
                      It's more equipment (holster) than I need.
                      Okay now you lost me...a holster that allows you to acess the weapon while seated in a car or on a bike, in a fast food booth wherever....is too much holster?

                      Meaning you dont carry in those situations? or do you move your weapon around everyday to fit todays fashion choice?

                      I have seen no other IWB that fit all those qualifications did i miss something new? .......Share.....

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mike Brewer
                        I It sits high enough so I can access it in the car with my seatbelt buckled, and it holds the gun securely enough to my side that it hides under a regular polo shirt. To my knowledge, I've never been "made," at least to the point that anyone brought it up, and most often, even my friends can't tell whther I am carrying or not. Since my everyday gun is a full sized Sig P226, I can't imagine you'd need to get too fancy to hide a pistol. I personally don't like IWB holsters either, because they just don't feel as comfortable to me as a high-ride belt rig. I have one, but it's not my favorite.

                        come on now, a polo shirt? Man the air really is thin in thar mountains you mean no one pays enough attention for it to matter?... appendix carry dude

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Mike Brewer
                          Serious, man! You just buy the polo shirt six sizes too large and make sure you wear it over your concealment vest!
                          Yep that'll help you blend right in with all the other off duty cops

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                          • #28
                            nah.... you're getting too analytical


                            How about this:

                            He's still just another punkass with no respect for other martial arts. He thinks he's soem kind of elite, rough "streetfighter" who apparently carries around a gun. <------- Perhaps that's why he can fight. No one stands a chance against the BULLETS !!!!

                            He claims traditional ma is ineffective. Let's throw him in the ring with a couple of Muay Thai legends ( a traditional MA) and see how he does.

                            If Bruce Lee were alive, Lee would've handed this Demi guy's ass to him.

                            Choi Bae Dal (Masutatsu Oyama) would've also wiped the floor with the "self preservation" man, as would have Grandmaster Jhoon Rhee (reknowned TKD gradnmaster and Bruce Lee's training buddy).

                            Oh wait... he has a gun.

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                            • #29
                              HAHAHAHAHA Please...

                              Dissuade me from attacking him? You must be joking right? I've listed true representatives of traditional martial arts to make this joke-face realize he shouln't be making fun of them. I don't consider myself on the upper echelon of all traditional martial artists. I'd get my ass handed to me by my Sahbumnim any day.

                              You know what I have a problem with? His claim that traditional martial arts is bullshit. That is exactly what got me started on this tirade anyway. All I have to say for this man is that he clearly is ignorant. His stuff works for him. Good. His stuff works for some of his students? Even better. But that doesn't make traditional martial arts ineffective and this "streetfighter" ought to have some respect.

                              This guy thinks he knows everything and he also obviously thinks he's an elite "streetfighter". I think he's an f-ing joke.

                              To Demi Barbaroi or whatever the hell your name is: Go home.

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                              • #30
                                Demi has been here a long time TKD. he is a respected member of the community and you should read his posts before you talk trash.

                                As for Bruce Lee beating Demi, probably since Demi would have been in class for that purpose.

                                Demi isn't talking about "self-defense" He's not talking about tournament fighting he's talking about things like de-escalation, and escalation and the use of lethal force.

                                These are concept that are just not handled by many martial arts.

                                Funny thing is I teach TKD and my concept agree's with quite a bit of his stuff.

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