Feints (Fakes)

[BoarSpear]

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Okay okay, everything in Taiji looks exactly like what it is

[white devil]

Feints are maneuvers designed to distract or mislead.A feint attack is designed to draw defensive action towards the point under assault. It is usually used as a diversion; to force the enemy to concentrate more manpower in a given area so that the opposing force in another area is weaker.

Also feinting shouldnt only involve your arms and legs.You must learn to feint with your facial emotions as well i believe.Now are feints useful? OF COURSE,they are the symbol of the experienced,technical and skilled fighter.Any fighter in any system should master them.

[thtackett]

Feints are good, but to say again: They shouldn't work against anyone who is proficient in JKD. If they are "designed to draw defensive action towards the point under assault", then that means that they work against someone who uses a passive move like a block."
"Avoid passive moves"
Bruce Lee

[white devil]

Mr Tackett.What about against Counter fighters who are patiently waiting for us to lead?

[thtackett]

Don't lead! Draw the counter if he's a counter fighter. It's just basic JKD.

[thtackett]

By controlling the distance, you can feint with a hand attack to draw a stop hit, but what if he stop kicks? For some fun, work on this.
Tim

[white devil]

Thanks for the tip sir... Speaking strictlly boxing
I know for a fact that feinting against the unskilled is not as important as against the experienced one.But,

pretending I am the Counter-Fighter,and the very purpose of my feint is to introduce a set-up (assuming the fact that i can predict what feint will provoke what reaction,which is the basis of counter-fighting).Doesnt that make feinting a fundamental part of my strategy?In fact, how do i create set ups if not by using feints?

I agree that too much feints,especially consecutive ones will only allow the defender to time counters.And thus they should only be used to introduce ''set ups''...shouldnt they?

I still stick to my theory of feints being essential to a technical contest.And they should work against any type of fighter.

I am very open to your comments and excuse my poor english,it's only my third language.

[thtackett]

What if you feint a hand attack and he uses a leg obstruction? That's what my students are taught to do. We would hope that some one would fake or feint a hand attack. To say again as Bruce Lee himself told Bob Bremer, "Feint's (PIA) should not work against any one who knows and can use JKD.

[thtackett]

This is very true with a weapon it's a different story. It would not be a good idea to do a shin/knee side kick if he's a good kali man and is faking with a knife . But if it's empty hands, do like Bruce said, "Just hit!". He also said to avoid passive moves as blocking is the least efficient method of defense.
Tim

[BoarSpear]

Very nice post Mike

[thtackett]

I agree! It's a great post. Sometimes distance is defense can higher than #5. Some examples are:
1. You are taken unawares and just want to get the hell out of the way. Train to back just enough so that the attack just misses you so you can counter before he can complete a 2nd attack. It's hitting on the 1 and 1/2 beat.
2. Retreat too much on purpose to draw a 2nd attack.

[thtackett]

Good job, Mike! One of the things that is lacking in most training I see is recovery. Bruce told Bremer, "If he doesn't recover after kicking the shield, run over him with it". Two other common training errors are not varying the distance and the rhythm.
Tim

[Hardball]

Sounds close to the principle of independent movement. Don't waste movement or energy by telegraphing. Strike high, low then low high. Slow it down a half beat then blam, speed up your technique and catch them sleeping. ( almost to the point where I am thinking like a baseball pitcher mixing up my stuff)

[stonehombre]

one of the funniest thing to do when i spar since im in TKD so no punches to face and sometimes people dont keep there hands even up i mean cmon is throw a feint punch to there face there expression is priceless til i sidekick them in the stomach cuz they finally raised thier hands