a message to the martial artists on this forum

[mr goodcat]

How many times do you need to get chased off, happeh?

good night

[jubaji]

how long 'til he starts going on about Dragonball, etc.?

good night

FU, happeh

[mr goodcat]

FU, happeh

ok good night

[eXcessiveForce]

That's the problem, we do understand what you are saying. We even understand the context the quotes were given in the framework provided by the person who said them.


This is not something you can say. You do not understand the framework and so you miss the point of the words. You think you understand but it is apparent to those of us who have spent a much longer time that 6 years researching that you do not.

You appear to only understand the surface, but not the depth.

Thought without action is meaningless.

[Garland]

You appear to only understand the surface, but not the depth.

Thought without action is meaningless.

That gives me an idea...since I don't understand the frame work of what these most recent addendums to our forum are spitting at me, do you think I could better understand the DEPTH of their ignorance through the ACTION of banging my skull repeatedly into a concrete wall? Maybe I could come back, almost as if Moses off Mt. Sinai, with the epiphany of understanding "stupid"?

[eXcessiveForce]

LOL!!!! lucky I can count to 10.

[mr goodcat]

That's the problem, we do understand what you are saying. We even understand the context the quotes were given in the framework provided by the person who said them.


This is not something you can say. You do not understand the framework and so you miss the point of the words. You think you understand but it is apparent to those of us who have spent a much longer time that 6 years researching that you do not.

You appear to only understand the surface, but not the depth.

Thought without action is meaningless.

not all those who wonder are lost ; not all those who learn year by year are slow.

[mr goodcat]

ignorance, like all life needs substance to live, to kill the ignorance, the provider must also abolish the substance.

if youre that smart in philosophy youd also know that it is not the truth, neither is science, there is no truth, there is only opinion and what is and is not accepted and agreed upon, i dont care how many years you have in going around in circles with your philosophy or teaching, the person who really learns is the person who observes other than teaches, for a teacher knowingly or unknowingly sticks in much of his opinion with the stuff he/she is trying to teach.

[eXcessiveForce]

it depends on your school of thought whether you believe there is objective truth.

The issue with your assertation is that you apply the philosophy in such a way that it appears you do not have comprehension of the subject.

For instance with regards to expressing the human body, Bruce was not referring to technique, but rather to dead patterns. He was not advocating that there were not proper ways to move. One of the core principles of his philosophy is conservation of movement. This means that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Additionally he promoted effectiveness, so a technique that fails to achieve it's purpose a large percentage of the time would not fit in his philosphy.

The next area is hitting without intention. This is more than simply doing a technique from "no Mind" that is simply a conditioned response which increases response time. Bruce advocated hiding your attack, by not telegraphing your intention to strike. Thus a process of removing your tells, your preperation to hit, and anything else that would signal an attack was coming.

None of this means that you can throw some technique correctly or not and follow this philosphy. For examply your side kick, There are many ways to throw a side kick depending on the school of thought you follow, but there are also incorrect ways. For instance, not pivoting at all, while possible is unsound as it leads to injury and a loss of power. So saying you can throw it any way at all because it is an honest expression of the human body is incorrect. It may only be a contrived expression based on a lack of knowledge of proper mechanics.

[mr goodcat]

it depends on your school of thought whether you believe there is objective truth.

The issue with your assertation is that you apply the philosophy in such a way that it appears you do not have comprehension of the subject.

For instance with regards to expressing the human body, Bruce was not referring to technique, but rather to dead patterns. He was not advocating that there were not proper ways to move. One of the core principles of his philosophy is conservation of movement. This means that there is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Additionally he promoted effectiveness, so a technique that fails to achieve it's purpose a large percentage of the time would not fit in his philosphy.

The next area is hitting without intention. This is more than simply doing a technique from "no Mind" that is simply a conditioned response which increases response time. Bruce advocated hiding your attack, by not telegraphing your intention to strike. Thus a process of removing your tells, your preperation to hit, and anything else that would signal an attack was coming.

None of this means that you can throw some technique correctly or not and follow this philosphy. For examply your side kick, There are many ways to throw a side kick depending on the school of thought you follow, but there are also incorrect ways. For instance, not pivoting at all, while possible is unsound as it leads to injury and a loss of power. So saying you can throw it any way at all because it is an honest expression of the human body is incorrect. It may only be a contrived expression based on a lack of knowledge of proper mechanics.

i know i always felt there is no wrong way to do a side kick unless it hurts, in any other case a side kick should fit ones own self expression, a unique form and way that one expresses himself through his side kick, not hurting himself at all, i understand this philosophy plenty, but in an effort to use my own words and not completely copy someone elses i sometimes dont explain it well and will take the reader in another direction

[jubaji]

ignorance, like all life needs substance to live, to kill the ignorance, the provider must also abolish the substance.

if youre that smart in philosophy youd also know that it is not the truth, neither is science, there is no truth, there is only opinion and what is and is not accepted and agreed upon, i dont care how many years you have in going around in circles with your philosophy or teaching, the person who really learns is the person who observes other than teaches, for a teacher knowingly or unknowingly sticks in much of his opinion with the stuff he/she is trying to teach.

Shut up, happeh.

[mr goodcat]

Shut up, happeh.

go get a life porkey

[NightStalker14]

i know i always felt there is no wrong way to do a side kick unless it hurts, in any other case a side kick should fit ones own self expression, a unique form and way that one expresses himself through his side kick, not hurting himself at all, i understand this philosophy plenty, but in an effort to use my own words and not completely copy someone elses i sometimes dont explain it well and will take the reader in another direction

How the hell does one express himself in the way he throws a side kick?

There aren't all that many ways to do it...

I think you're basically attempting to justify doing it the wrong way. Perhaps because you never learned the right way.

It's done a certain way for a reason: to deliver maximum power and effect and kinetic force to the opponent, so as to put him that much closer to losing the fight.

If you view causing bodily harm to another individual as a form of 'expression', then you're treading dangerously close to sociopathic.

You seem to want to emulate Bruce Lee. That's fine. I have no problem with that.

But I recognize the martial arts as a weapon alongside a firearm or knife. I don't view it as a form of self-expression, at least not anymore. I did once, but I was slightly misguided in my views.

No amount of sputtering about philosophy will make you Bruce Lee. Lee was a brilliant martial artist and I would daresay the best. His name is familiar with almost any martial arts practitioner 33 years after his death.

Your attempts to be like him can't lie in quoting his philosophy.

Despite whatever honest effort you might put forth, you strike me as just another kid who thinks he's something that he's not.

And at 18, you're not on your way to a philosophy major; you just started. And I know that you can't possibly know that much from a few months of college education.

Take care.

[mr goodcat]

How the hell does one express himself in the way he throws a side kick?

There aren't all that many ways to do it...

I think you're basically attempting to justify doing it the wrong way. Perhaps because you never learned the right way.

It's done a certain way for a reason: to deliver maximum power and effect and kinetic force to the opponent, so as to put him that much closer to losing the fight.

If you view causing bodily harm to another individual as a form of 'expression', then you're treading dangerously close to sociopathic.

You seem to want to emulate Bruce Lee. That's fine. I have no problem with that.

But I recognize the martial arts as a weapon alongside a firearm or knife. I don't view it as a form of self-expression, at least not anymore. I did once, but I was slightly misguided in my views.

No amount of sputtering about philosophy will make you Bruce Lee. Lee was a brilliant martial artist and I would daresay the best. His name is familiar with almost any martial arts practitioner 33 years after his death.

Your attempts to be like him can't lie in quoting his philosophy.

Despite whatever honest effort you might put forth, you strike me as just another kid who thinks he's something that he's not.

And at 18, you're not on your way to a philosophy major; you just started. And I know that you can't possibly know that much from a few months of college education.

Take care.

... yeah yeah i am not bruce lee nor do i want to be, sure he was good with martial arts but my training extends far beyond hands and legs, your attempt to try to phase me by saying im trying to be bruce lee wastes both of our time. dont waste your time typing long postes to someone if the person wont even bother to read your griping

[jubaji]

go get a life porkey

It will be interesting to see how long you last this time, happeh.