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  • Tant01
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    Tired of reading THIS>>>

    Originally posted by Flaves View Post
    ..... That being said, JKD is essentially the first Mixed Martial Art.
    .....

    I'm (really) "good" with everything you put in your post EXCEPT this part.



    Bruce had an ego. He wanted HIS kung-fu to be the very best! He went to HOLLYWOOD to show the world HIS style. He was a real bad ass to be sure and he deserves kudos for POPULARIZING martial arts in general. He was a Master, no doubt. But he was not the first... not by a long shot.

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  • Flaves
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    yes JKD contains elements of all those arts and more. if you have not already done so i would recommend reading The Tao of Jeet Kune Do. the kickboxing comes from Muay Thai and Savate. The JKD grappling comes from Judo, Wrestling and Jiu Jitsu. The hand range from Boxing. Trapping from Wing Chun. Footwork from Savate, Boxing and Fencing. It also contains elements of Aikido, Northern and Southern Chinese styles,

    By the way another key JKD concept that can by applied to MMA is PIA (Progressive Indirect Attack). Adding that to your game will help your stand up tremendously.

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  • g-bells
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    Originally posted by Flaves View Post
    Without really reading through what others have wrote I am going to answer this question.

    First of all it is important to understand that JKD is actually a personal philosophical expression of Martial Arts developed by Bruce Lee. To create his style he pulled from many different arts including Muay Thai, Boxing, Judo, Japanese Jiu Jitsu, Wing Chun, Fencing and Savate. That being said, JKD is essentially the first Mixed Martial Art.

    If Bruce Lee were alive today and still teaching his art, he would undoubtly adjust the methods and techniques to account for fighting styles of today.

    Now, I believe that the essense of the question is how can JKD benefit you in MMA.

    One of the man areas you can benefit from is the Savate Kickboxing and footwork. A lot of the MMA fighters I have seen tend to stalk, and not to many have great footwork. If you train in either Savate, or JKD, you can bring a new dimension to the rest of your MMA training.

    Another area you can benefit from is the simutaneous attack/defense principle of Wing Chun. The concept of "If he moves he gets hit, if he doesn't move he gets hit." can really benefit fighters in competitions.

    I hope that answers your question and you look to pursue some JKD (or more accurately some Jun Fan Gung Fu) training.
    JKD is BL expression of his own art yes, but it is basically WC,Western Boxing andFencing!!

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  • Flaves
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    Without really reading through what others have wrote I am going to answer this question.

    First of all it is important to understand that JKD is actually a personal philosophical expression of Martial Arts developed by Bruce Lee. To create his style he pulled from many different arts including Muay Thai, Boxing, Judo, Japanese Jiu Jitsu, Wing Chun, Fencing and Savate. That being said, JKD is essentially the first Mixed Martial Art.

    If Bruce Lee were alive today and still teaching his art, he would undoubtly adjust the methods and techniques to account for fighting styles of today.

    Now, I believe that the essense of the question is how can JKD benefit you in MMA.

    One of the man areas you can benefit from is the Savate Kickboxing and footwork. A lot of the MMA fighters I have seen tend to stalk, and not to many have great footwork. If you train in either Savate, or JKD, you can bring a new dimension to the rest of your MMA training.

    Another area you can benefit from is the simutaneous attack/defense principle of Wing Chun. The concept of "If he moves he gets hit, if he doesn't move he gets hit." can really benefit fighters in competitions.

    I hope that answers your question and you look to pursue some JKD (or more accurately some Jun Fan Gung Fu) training.

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  • Jujujason
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    It's probably best to have a well-rounded athletic/sports/fitness background in addition to doing both tma and combat sports to some degree or another over the course of one's lifetime.

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  • Ben Grimm
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    But MMA does teach other essential ingredients such as mental toughness. A real necessity in a street fight.

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  • bigboywasim
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    MMA does not teach certain moves that can seriously injure someone and they also do not practice weapons which are all important in a street fight.

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  • ck5
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    From what I have seen, yes. JKD is worth it. *In theory*.
    In reality, I'm uncertain exactly what the value of an art is if the instructors are tight lipped about it. At least those in Colorado are. I have been hoping to find ONE instructor that isn't so weird over it.

    The only one I found has since moved. The rest, I swear. JKD must be some kind of national security thing.

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  • Ben Grimm
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    Chuuuuuuuuu!!!!! Shocks people with lightning

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  • Tom Yum
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    Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post
    I don't know if JKD went the way that Bruce would have wanted it to go.
    ....Pikachuuuu??

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  • Ben Grimm
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    I don't know if JKD went the way that Bruce would have wanted it to go.

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  • g-bells
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    It has worked for me, so as for being tested i would say it has

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  • liquidice
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    Originally posted by Clubber Lang View Post
    The one issue I always had with JKD is that it was never really tested, other than hearsay and rumour. Mixed Martial Arts is tested all the time, by professional athletes, and the results are there for all to see.
    It has been tested, Bruce clamed that he is the best and called for people to challenge him.

    And they did,

    And they lost.

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  • Tant01
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    By who???

    Originally posted by jtheath View Post
    Bruce Lee is widely considered the father of MMA. The idea of absorbing what is useful, rejecting what is useless and adding what is specifically one's own has been adopted by many of the "evolved" martial artists that we see calling themselves mixed martial artists today. The idea of analyzing and researching different systems to develop one's own style is basically the same in those involved in JKD or MMA. What you see with the JKD concepts people(Inosanto blend) is them going beyond the original Jun Fan kung fu curriculum and incorporating techniques from different systems to cover the different ranges of combat(kicking,punching,trapping,grappling). This is how, I believe, Bruce Lee would have wanted it.
    There are many blended styles that got started long before BL came on the scene. (Judo is one of them)
    The modern evolution of sport fighting is not (in my opinion) what BL wanted for JKD. Credit for the new "sport" falls closer to the famous Gracie family.

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  • legshot420
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    Thanks for the replies, guys! I really appreciate the insights!

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