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  • #31
    straight blast...

    people tend to forget that the straightblast occurs only after INFLICTING PAIN upon your opponent (i.e., destruction, bil jee, interception techniques, etc.). Then, and ONLY THEN, do you go to straightblast.

    No individual, wrestler or not, can take you down after you've destructed his fist, or delivered a powerful jeet tek to his shin, or delivered a serious bil jee. The PAIN will be too much for him. While you're straightblasting him, he's too busy grabbing his eye or shin or fist to even think about your blast.

    The blast doesn't work against wrestlers when you're TRAINING with them. The guy's wearing pads, a freakin' helmet...and you expect the blast to work? Trust me, have your wrestler partner take off the F.I.S.T. helmet...THEN let's see how he handles a straightblast! LOL!

    Most importantly, let's not forget that the blast is just a FACILITATOR for the clinch. That's where we want to be. If we throw the blast, and the guy doesn't go down, but we get the clinch, then we've done our work.

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    • #32
      You don't have to inflict pain before using SB - You can use SB as a entry, counter or interception. Pain doesn't always surface in a fight - so don't rely on that theory. There have been plenty of fighters who fought with brocken hands, noses, knocked out teeth and won the fight. I use straight blast on wrestlers all the time - It throws them off. If you land your strikes then it worked if not it failed - simple as that. The person style doesn't really matter if you are chosing your target with selectiveness - waiting for the right moment to attack. Look for an opening - when it appearse - go for it. Dont tell yourself this person is a wrestler so I can do SB - if the opportunity lends it self to SB then by all means - capitalize on the opportunity.

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      • #33
        J.K.

        good point. If it's there, take it. If not, create it (via destruction, interception, what have you).

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        • #34
          pfs

          Vunak's RAT system is a crash course in self-defense. It is hardly all that Vunak knows or can teach. IIRC Mr. Vunak was one of the first Inosanto students to train with Rorion and Rickson. Along with Burton Richardson he is probably the strongest advocate of BJJ and related arts among the well-known jkd_c people. Matt Thorton, who works with MMA champs like Randy Couture, is an indirect student of Vunak. I think the whole debate is like asking: what is better, Bill Belichek's system, or football?
          Have fun at your Superbowl parties, guys!

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          • #35
            "Vunak's RAT system is a crash course in self-defense. It is hardly all that Vunak knows or can teach. IIRC Mr. Vunak was one of the first Inosanto students to train with Rorion and Rickson. Along with Burton Richardson he is probably the strongest advocate of BJJ and related arts among the well-known jkd_c people. Matt Thorton, who works with MMA champs like Randy Couture, is an indirect student of Vunak."

            well said!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by J.K.
              "Vunak's RAT system is a crash course in self-defense. It is hardly all that Vunak knows or can teach. IIRC Mr. Vunak was one of the first Inosanto students to train with Rorion and Rickson. Along with Burton Richardson he is probably the strongest advocate of BJJ and related arts among the well-known jkd_c people. Matt Thorton, who works with MMA champs like Randy Couture, is an indirect student of Vunak."

              well said!
              indeed, well said
              in one of vunaks' latest videos', he mentioned the sales pitch of being against drills, reference points, and aliveness debates thats been going on for yrs. now. a drill is like jump roping, when you get in to a confrontation are you going to start jump roping? no your not so what good is jump roping then? well jump roping enhances your cardio,foot work, timing,etc.etc. same thing with hubud-sumbrada,etc.etc.. how about push ups? are you going to start doing push ups in the middle of fight? of course not? so what does push up do for an individual?
              i hope you get the drift.
              drills and ref-points go along way, these are the foundation of your being!
              if you discard these items, then your are stripping the core of your essentials

              always breathe in and out, or you will be dead
              lrg

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Underdog
                vale tudo is built upon conserving energy: in the ring you have no time limits, so if you rush you may get caught when you recover; PSF is EXPLOSIVE, geared toward street fighting.
                True. But when training for the ring, one of the things you train for (ALOT) is EXPLOSIVE bursts of activity.. If you are doing HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) for your roadwork, then that exercise is building HUGE reserves of anaerobic stamina..

                So even if you are 'just training for the ring', if you are training realistically, you are building the type of energy-burst-stamina and energy-burst-utilization necessary for a street attack. You just learn to be able to do it over and over and over again within a 10 minute time period..A great thing to be able to pull off if the guy ambushing you isn't a gramma..

                It takes nothing for a trained boxer to switch his jabs/crosses into thumb/finger jabs to the eyes, by the way. It takes nothing for a kickboxer (or even a high school wrestler) to wear some steel-toes and start kicking to the shins. No one even has to teach him to do it - if his head's already working.

                I'm not putting down PFS at all, by the way. Just some points to clear up regarding the misunderstandings about "sport" fighters. If it's realistic sport fighting, they are going to do well on the street with little need for adaptation..most of which will be mere common sense adjustments.

                As a mirthful aside:I'm pretty sure you meant "got my ass handed to me"..not "handled".

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Underdog
                  Great; btw I'm 6'3 so the chances are that the majority of my opponents would be shorter than me; that pose problems, because to headbutt I Must lower myself quite a bit.
                  Underdog, I'm 6'5" and to be honest with you I rarely get the headbut; however, think about driving your shoulder into their face in the same manner you would your forehead.

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