one and two step sparring

[basketball jone]

What do you guys think about the use of 1 and 2 step sparring
in Silat classes? do you think this is overdone a bit much? Is there
a better way to train Silat and open handed kali?

[soho]

I think one and two step sparring is for the birds no matter what you are training. I pretty much think Silat is for the birds too, but hey some people like it.

[doubleouch]

here is how to tell if one and two step sparring works.
First, practice them alot.
Second, have someone attack you at random and see if you can pull any of them off.

I think you will find that they don't work in the sence of preparing you to use them in a combat situation. They may be great however for helping you to catalogue or remember techniques.

[gungfuhero]

Those methods may be good at making you familiar with the technique, but what I like is to pad up, find someone you can trust and spar it. With a good helmet (face mask is a plus) gloves, elbow and knee pads and shin guards you can spar panantukan fairly easily. Silat is a little trickier, but if you just take it easy and use your locks more like "hits" than submissions you can have a lot of fun with Silat. What I mean by hits is don't look to make somebody tap with an arm surge. Just get your position and flow from there.

[Dr Jack]

I think Silat one and two step sparring works as well as one and two step sparring in traditional karate. I think it helps teach you the techniques and gives an idea of when to use them. I do think it teaches you how to react in a given situation.

I also agree it can't stop there. Ypou have to use a live resisting opponent and see if it works on him.

Jack

[mighty marr0w]

i think the one and two step methods build familiarity gives you a basic look into the techniques, but ALIVE sparring with an active training partner, active meaning resisting, feeding real punches, etc. is where you see what techniques or methods really work..
remember, discard what is useless to you.

marr0w

[Flash]

Interesting question...

I think 1- and 2- step sparring have their place to familiarize people with techniques, concepts, etc. The analogy I make is that they are like examples that a professor or teacher gives during a lecture on a subject. However, learning examples of engineering problems doesn't make one an engineer (to use one example). One must learn how to apply ones knowledge. And that means some sort of "alive" training. The difficult thing about Silat is that a lot of the stuff seems to be "situational", i.e. more self-defense oriented, which makes it sort of difficult to "spar". I guess the way to go would be to do the old motorcycle helmet routine, i.e. have one guy the designated "aggressor" and fit him with boxing gloves and have the other guy be "Silat man" or whatever with bag gloves and have Mr. Aggressor come at Mr. Silat in an "alive" manner, slowing upping the intensity as they get comfortable with it. As is often the case in these sorts of things, I think one would see a lot of stuff getting dumped and people sticking with the really simple stuff after they got walloped in the noggin one too many times.