My "JKD" rant.

[JKogas]

I understand Mike, and I DO see your points. :-)


That's cool. I appreciate your comments.


You are a welcome presense on this forum!


-John

[pcarney]

Just wanted to say good article, Sikal.
I find I use trapping a fair amount in my sparring- simple stuff only, like you describe. The key to incorporating this into your fighting is practicing traps in a 'lively' setting. Static drills are necessary to learn the basic movements, etc, but you really can't use these things (obviously) until you can apply them on the move.
While sparring with students of other arts (striking arts, obviously) I find that traps really through them for a loop. It's especially fun against karate guys with thier 'hard' blocking. If I were to biased to one range, it would be trapping- which is why I realize I have to work more on my grappeling.

[sikal]

Originally posted by pcarney
Just wanted to say good article, Sikal.
I find I use trapping a fair amount in my sparring- simple stuff only, like you describe. The key to incorporating this into your fighting is practicing traps in a 'lively' setting. Static drills are necessary to learn the basic movements, etc, but you really can't use these things (obviously) until you can apply them on the move.
While sparring with students of other arts (striking arts, obviously) I find that traps really through them for a loop. It's especially fun against karate guys with thier 'hard' blocking. If I were to biased to one range, it would be trapping- which is why I realize I have to work more on my grappeling.

Thanks :-)

Trapping is also useful in grappling and groundfighting. The concept is particularly useful on the ground since you can trap against the ground. I use foot trapping constantly when sparring. I find that the general mindset of trapping (i.e.: keeping in close and smothering their motions) tends to throw most people a little :-)

Thanks for the feedback.

Mike

[Alex]

Sikal said

It's impossible to free yourself from the "classical mess" if you don't go through the "classical mess."

We must appreciate how simple yet profound this statement is. How can one become detached from something before first FULLY UNDERSTANDING what it is you are to be detached from?

[JKogas]

For me personally, I was never the biggest fan, of Jun Fan. I didn't care for the way it is usually trained nor for the complex trapping methods (as well as the time that is generally devoted to training them).

Hell, my time is limited, why on earth would I want to devote the time I DO have to something that I am finding to be VERY low percentage?

However, if Jun Fan "works" for you, (and I would have you ask yourself who your opponents are that it is working against), then so be it. Allow that to be your JKD.

However for me, to include something like Jun Fan within my JKD just for the sake of inclusion reeks of traditionalism and "classical mess". I'm sorry if some folks don't agree.

[JKD_Jay]

No such thing...

From all of Bruce Lee's writings, can we come to the conclusion that there's no such thing as "JKD"? There's MY JKD, and YOUR JKD, and the other guy's JKD, all of which are perfectly valid. Is or is not JKD a philosophy on fighting, applicable to and translated by each individual in their own unique way? Who cares, anyway? Just train.

[Pearse]

I agree with most of the stuff written here (although i haven't read all of it).

Most of the JKD people out there suck ass, because they do not realize that JKD is an idea, a philosophy, instead of a style of fighting.

You may only have learned Karate, but you could still call yourself a JKD practitioner, if you use your IMAGINATION. This is what Lee/Krishnamurti's idea was about - the ability to look beyond fixed teachings and find out the right path for yourself.