any one know

[Sphinx]

Thinking of learning a martial art and want to know whats betterout of bjj and jkd? Is there any grappling in jkd and are there many tornaments in both? Which is better for self-defence?

Someone claims that they can teach me mixed martial arts in tae kwon do, wrestling, kung fu, tai boxing(?) and karate is this any good.

Do all these mix well or is this person speaking out of his arse, he sounds pretty desperate?


is bjj and jkd better than this?

wots tai boxing?

wot martial art does jackie chan do and do reckon he would be any good in a proper fight (not in front of cameras).

[Brokenmace]

Hi. Well, let's see . . .

This will take some reading, 'cause you asked a lot.

First, if some one says they will teach you JKD, laugh at them (or be nice about it, as you prefer). They can't, not really. They can teach you the martial expression of the philosophy that is JKD, which is called Jun Fan Gungfu. Jun Fan illustrates and inculcates the combative principles needed to follow JKD. Reputable schools often say they teach JKD Concepts, Jun Fan, or some other variation on the JKD theme. They rarely claim they actually teach you Jeet Kune Do and leave it there.

Any school that can trace its lineage back to any of the senior students of Bruce Lee is good enough for a start. These are: Dan Inosanto, James Lee, Taky Kimura, Ted Wong, and others. I'm sure I've left out a few.

So, you learn Jun Fan, and come to understand JKD through it.

JKD, because it is not a style, accepts all styles, and demands that you look at the why and how of everything you do so that you are efficient and fluid in the best way that your body can be.

For instance, it's not really profitably to take both TKD and Thai Boxing at the same time. If you are looking for sport, take TKD. If you are looking for practicality, take Thai Boxing (though it is also a sport -- just a deadly one). Thai boxing focuses on power kicking with speed, as well as good boxing skills. TKD is the opposite, and prefers fancy high kicks that get you kicked in the balls (see Jee t's posts). Both arts are striking arts, reliant to varying degrees on kicking. Taking both is redundant. Besides, as I've stated elswhere, TKD is the result of cultural sabotage by the Japanese in the 30'sand 40's, and isn't even taken seriously by the Korean Armed Forces.

If you must take TKD (for some bizarre reason), and wish to mix it with Kungfu, you are best advised to seek out a reputable Kuk Sool Wan teacher (it mixes kungfu and TKD in a complete system, not adhoc, as may be the case).

JKD (contrary to popular belief) has grappling and throws in its primary curriculum. This can be (and is often) supplemented with BJJ, and rightly so. A JKD practitioner looks to various arts in order to prepare defenses against them and absorb what useful information he may.

One of the advantages of JKD instruction is that many JKD schools, by their very nature, teach more than Jun Fan Gungfu. A large number of them offer BJJ, Capoeira, Filipino Kali/Escrima, Western Boxing, Thai Boxing, and various cardio programs.

As for Jackie Chan, I could be wrong but I think he studied both Wing Chun and Northern Praying Mantis, along with Wushu. As to wether he'd be any good in a street fight? Do you want to try him? Sometimes style doesn't matter when you are that fast! God help you if there are foreign objects lying around

Personally (as you might have noticed) I'm biased towards JKD, not just because I love it (I do), but because of the other benefits I pointed out. I've learned a lot that I otherwise would not have from mixing with other martial artists from various styles.

Good luck . . .

[auto]

Good

That was really good Mace. Damn good. Just an add on. You will see slight differences in JKD schools not so much because of instructorship but because of lineage. Taky and James learned with Bruce at the beginning of his development, while Dan was with him during the middle. Ted studied during the end of Bruce's tranformation before he died. Ted also claims to have preserved JKD in its purest sense as it was at Bruce's death. He was teaching in Chinatown San Fransisco-- I don't know if he still does though.

[Brokenmace]

Thanks!

And here I thought I was getting long-winded . . .