Your Jeet Kune Do or Mine?

[Tant01]

I believe many people have been led astray from the essence of Jeet Kune Do. Bruce Lee said that Jeet Kune Do was the art of expressing oneself. If you learn it from somebody how is that expressing yourself. I believe if you are expressing yourself freely and physically and that it feels right when you do it, then it could be called Jeet Kune Do.

That's Just Great! I'm going to go mow my lawn now... I'm going to waste lots of energy and push it around randomly. I'm going to tip it up on the back wheels and stop three times to add fuel... THEN I'M GOING TO CALL IT JKD!

Get a clue...Just because you believe something doesn't make it so.

[Jeet Kune Do1]

Bruce Lee said that Jeet Kune Do is the art of expressing yourself. If you learn jeet Kune Do from another person you are copying their style of Jeet Kune Do. Not one Jeet Kune Do is the same. So if you learn from somebody and then go to another school and practice there they are going to tell you that the style you practice is not true Jeet Kune Do, they will say theirs is.

[Tai Chi Fighter]

Yes, if you are truly expressing yourself and doing what comes naturally then I believe you are practicing Jeet Kune Do.

[Tant01]

Bruce Lee said that Jeet Kune Do is the art of expressing yourself. If you learn jeet Kune Do from another person you are copying their style of Jeet Kune Do. Not one Jeet Kune Do is the same. So if you learn from somebody and then go to another school and practice there they are going to tell you that the style you practice is not true Jeet Kune Do, they will say theirs is.

Phui...

How many JKD academies have you been to Jeet Kune D'oh1?

Zero by my estimate...

[Tant01]

Phui!!!

Yes, if you are truly expressing yourself and doing what comes naturally then I believe you are practicing Jeet Kune Do.

I'm mowing my lawn... is that JKD too?

I give up...

[Shard]

JKD as a style is bull. Bruce's concepts for JKD were what works best for the individual. If you are fast, then perhaps you can get good at halting an opponent's offense. Eg. Before they punch you, you have already kicked then in the knee, thus halting their attack.
If you are big built and slow, there is no way you can do what the quick person did. Thus you train differently. Perhaps you train to overwhelm the opponent with hard powerful strikes. Or maybe smother your opponent with your size advantage.
What works for the individual. Not what worked for another individual.

Seriously, if you want to learn striking, take up Boxing, MT or something like that from a certified Instructor/Coach.
Learn throws? Judo, San Shou, etc etc.
Grappling? Bjj, Wrestling, that kinda thing.
Mix the arts yourself, not just learn what someone else found was best for themselves.

JKD is a philosophy, not a style... JKD if you want to practise it, is to go out there and learn what arts you think suit you best. Then you sit down in a JKD lecture hall and you figure out whats best for you and what isn't.

[Tant01]

Where do you get this CRAP?

JKD as a style is bull.......
.....JKD is a philosophy, not a style... JKD...is to go out there and learn what arts you think suit you best. Then you sit down in a JKD lecture hall and you figure out whats best for you and what isn't.

Or since you're SITTING IN A JKD "lecture hall" maybe you could get off your ass and learn some REAL JKD?

I think you belong in the MMA forum...

[Shard]

Or since you're SITTING IN A JKD "lecture hall" maybe you could get off your ass and learn some REAL JKD?

I think you belong in the MMA forum...

What the hell do you mean by learn some real jkd? Do you mean Real JKD like a carbon copy of everyone else? MT/BJJ?
Bruce never meant JKD as a Style or a Martial art, but a way of development. To Maximise one's advantages and to limit one's weaknesses.
If you believe JKD is WC+BOXING+FENCING+WRESTLING then i'm sorry but you are wrong... JKD is not a fixed combination of what worked for bruce. JKD is what works for the practioner.

How many of you are as well muscled as Bruce? How many of you have his speed and his ability to react before the opponent can? If you do have those traits, then by all means, practise the same way. But the sad truth is, not all of us are built the same way. What works for a big guy, doesn't always work for a small guy. Therefore we all train differently.

[HERQ454]

It might be a good idea to investigate at what time Bruce made a statement or quote about JKD.From 1965 to 1970 Jkd was a style.Strong side forward.Bai jong stance,interceptions.JKD,"The way of the intercepting fist".Isnt that the name he came up with?From 1970 his views were changing due to all that reading he was doing because of the back injury.Just creating a new style,however efficient,closed it up from improvement. Maybe all this interest in JKD and what it is and isnt,isnt really that important.Maybe the better question is 'How can I become the best martial artist I can be?'

[robertlee]

All 3 schools while Bruce wasalive had a learning set. Seattle, Oakaland And La, Its been said befor That Jun Fan was JKD and as Bruce refined his structure you saw the changes. JKD in the end is what the person can do. But that does not mean take any fighting art and mix it or what ever and now its JKD. You start with JKD then if you add something from a different art you take something away also hopefully You have your personal form of JKD. Only because you had a JKD source of training first. But if you instruct JKD you should do it along the line in which you learned. Yes you can add your flaver to it. But let the people know its your added choice. Do not take it and call it JKD if you change several things to instruct it by. Let the person add take away on there own for there personal growth. Then theres will be there JKD but you gave the foundation first then that person built there own walls. So yes JKD has a method that is not just mixing a pot of stew.

[Tant01]

What the hell do you mean by learn some real jkd? Do you mean Real JKD like a carbon copy of everyone else? MT/BJJ?
Bruce never meant JKD as a Style or a Martial art, but a way of development. .....

Go read a book... The way of intercepting FIST. "Jeet Kune Do"


It's not MT/BJJ... that would be MMA... Not JKD. JKD IS a "NON CLASSICAL" style of Kung-Fu.

If you had a clue you wouldn't need to speculate...


Bye now...

[Shard]

Go read a book... The way of intercepting FIST. "Jeet Kune Do"


It's not MT/BJJ... that would be MMA... Not JKD. JKD IS a "NON CLASSICAL" style of Kung-Fu.

If you had a clue you wouldn't need to speculate...


Bye now...

So only if i practise MT/BJJ then i can be called an MMA? If i do Sambo or BOXING/WRESTLING I'm not a MMA anymore?

Wow a non classical style of kungfu... If you weren't pulling words out of your ass, maybe you'd have a clue.

JKD is NOT a bloody style. What worked for Bruce is highly unlikely to work for you. He believed in Striking before his oppoent could finish a strike. And he had the speed and ability to do so. Most of us on the other hand probably can't.

[Tant01]

So only if i practise MT/BJJ then i can be called an MMA? If i do Sambo or BOXING/WRESTLING I'm not a MMA anymore?

Wow a non classical style of kungfu... If you weren't pulling words out of your ass, maybe you'd have a clue.

JKD is NOT a bloody style. What worked for Bruce is highly unlikely to work for you. He believed in Striking before his oppoent could finish a strike. And he had the speed and ability to do so. Most of us on the other hand probably can't.

Don't be a dumbass. Mix whatever the hell you like and call it anything you want to...It still will NOT be Jeet kune Do

JKD is it's own style. You don't need to BE BRUCE LEE to practice HIS style.

Again, your speculation reveals your ignorance...

He believed in using your longest weapon on the closest target... That's JKD.

He outlined five ways of attack but not all of them were pre-emptive.

If you just want to blow smoke up your ass and call it JKD I have nothing else to say to you...If you want to develope some idea of what you're actually talking about, go read a book!

[n0dl]

I am all very new to this and i dont exactly have a teacher yet but this is what my conjecture of what jeet kune do really is. Jeet Kune Do or JKD for short has been interpreted in two ways, the formless fighting style, and the way of the intercepting fist. Between these two meanings i have found truth in both. The first of which, the formless fighting style, is a message which entails that an individual must find his or her own style of fighting. Since fighting is the expression of the human body and perhaps, human essence itself, it is possible that an individual has an innate style of fighting. For example, a person who is rather slim in stature may have an incredible sense of speed and therefore use it, counter to this, a person with a rather heavy build may have an incredible amount of physical strength. However, from this arises natural weaknesses, like the slim statured person may have speed but in terms of the "strength" of the blows they may fall short. In the context of the heavily built person, he or she may have low stamina. Jeet Kune Do is a method which amplifies the strengths but aims to improve the weaknesses. The person with the heavy build, if he or she decides to study Jeet Kune Do, can start stamina training with breathing exercises and long distance jogging and or sprinting. However, even if two people were to have the same all around build methods applied, the way punches and kicks "should feel", views on life and the like will be different for all people. Therefore, there is no true universal method or school of Jeet Kune Do. Jeet Kune Do, could be very well be viewed as a "base" or "template", if you will, for creating an individualized fighting style. Jeet Kune Do, is more of an ideological base/template rather than a set of strictly layed out rules. In order to become a good fighter an indivdual must train instinctively AND scientifically. Understanding the body's natural limits through biological, physical ,and chemical sciences, an individual, in theory, can use the body to its full potential in a fight. By understanding methods, theorums, and with practice a person turns knowledge into instincts. For example, a person may do reasearch on the human hand, all the muscles that make up a hand, methods of how to train the hand, improve ambidexterity with simple writing exercieses, throwing good punches. When the person trains he or she applies the knowledge that was learned to get the "feel" of a good punch. Through further practice, note taking, and research an effective punch is thrown whenever he or she punches, IT BECOMES INSTINCT. To further the contextual meaning Jeet Kune Do has aquired and the more literal meaning (of the intercepting fist) a person must be like water. While this may apply to the training aspect of Jeet Kune Do, this truly applies to the combat aspect. A person must find a balance between form and unpredictability in real life combat situations. Keeping good form is important to make sure that punches and kicks are precise, feints are effective, and counters taken. Unpredictability is important so that all your moves are not parried and countered. The problem with finding a "balance" is that it is misinterpreted as "consistent. The balance is incosistent, although contradictory to the dictionary definition, must be found at every combat instance.By adapting the ambiguity principle of water a person can adjust his or her form and find that balance by adjusting how much form or unpredictability a person needs in a fight.Furthermore, it is important to remember that no fight is fair and the goal of every fight is suppose to be survival, therefore an individual must expect any tactic of survival to be employed within the field.
I am sorry for the rather lengthy rant and the boredom i must have caused, but i had to state my theory. Thanks for reading. Oh and by the way despite the year i placed as my birthday im really 17.

[Jeet Kune Do1]

So am I. Finally someone my age who thinks the same as I.